********************************************* DISCLAIMER: THIS FILE WAS PRODUCED FOR COMMUNICATION ACCESS AS AN ADA ACCOMMODATION AND IS PRETTY CLOSE TO 100% VERBATIM. THIS IS AN EDITED FILE BUT MAY CONTAIN SOME ERRORS. THIS IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT, IT MAY CONTAIN COPYRIGHTED, PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. THIS FILE SHALL NOT BE DISCLOSED IN ANY FORM (WRITTEN OR ELECTRONIC) AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OR POSTED TO ANY WEBSITE OR PUBLIC FORUM OR SHARED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE HIRING PARTY. THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT AND SHOULD NOT BE RELIED UPON FOR PURPOSES OF VERBATIM CITATION. ********************************************* August 4, 2023 Faculty Senate ---Rita Lennon: Welcome to Fall semester 2023 everyone... so nice to see you... it's been a pleasure to see all of you today in person and maybe through our afternoon sessions... I hope you had wonderful division or department meetings... and now it's time for faculty senate... we got the luxury of the last meeting of the day. [chuckles] I think that's the best spot to have on a Friday afternoon... you know, between us and maybe a cool something at a pub. Where am I, in England? [chuckles] Anyway, Kelly or Denise, if you wouldn't mind continuing to put the agenda on as more people admit... are coming into the room... and Maggie, if you wouldn't mind, like I said, continuing to put the sign-in sheet in... I'll go ahead and get started with the meeting. So, the first thing we have, I do believe... yes... I see our Chancellor here... so, we have a welcoming message from the Chancellor... and you have the floor. ---Kate Schmidt: I don't think we can hear you Dolores. ---Rita Lennon: No. ---Kate Schmidt: Okay... I can hear you through the wall if you want to run over to this office. ---Rita Lennon: [laughing] ---Kate Schmidt: I... I'll literally give you my seat. ---Rita Lennon: [laughing] Like an instructor she's pivoting... [chuckles] ---Dolores Duran-Cerda: Hi... can you hear me and see me? Okay great. Well, hello everyone... thank you Rita... and it's great to be joining faculty senate... now, in a different role as interim Chancellor... but I just wanted to wish you all a wonderful academic year... and I hope you enjoy the morning's presentations and the energy... I felt a lot of positive energy from all of you... so, I appreciate that... and it was great to see everybody... and the keynote speaker was just incredible... but I'm really excited about continuing our work, our collaborative work with faculty senate... as well as staff council and the adjunct faculty work group. So, I would like to come whenever you would wish for me to give you updates... and I would like to stay connected to faculty senate because it's deep in my heart, having been a faculty member and wearing the hat all the time too. So, thank you... and I wanted to welcome our new acting provost, Jeff Thies, who I think is going to say a few words too... but we're so happy that he's joined the team... and he's going to be leading our efforts in academic affairs...  so woohoo... so, thank you everyone... have a wonderful weekend... I'll hang around for a few minutes   to see how the meeting goes... and if you have any  questions right now for me, I'll be happy to take them. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you do we have any questions? ---Dolores Duran-Cerda: If not I'll go back to the other office,  [chuckles] where you can't hear me but I can hear you. Okay... have a great weekend and happy first of the year, academic year... thank you ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... ---Dolores Duran-Cerda: Thank you Kate. ---Rita Lennon: Okay... our next item here is a welcome message  from our provost... Dr Thies, you have the floor. ---Jeff Thies: Good afternoon everyone... excited to be here, as I mentioned this morning, this is a great opportunity for me to to continue the work that's been done by Dolores, working closely with you all in faculty senate... working closely with the Deans,  CQI team, and others in the provost office... so, I'm excited about the opportunity and like  Dolores, I've, you know, always been really close   to what faculty senate does, as a longtime faculty member as well... so, if do you have any questions for me now... I'm going on my... into my 3rd week... so, I can tell you, the first 3 weeks has been a lot of meetings... I anticipated a majority of them but maybe some new, interesting things have happened in the last 3 weeks... and so, I just don't have a whole lot to share yet... we will have an acting VP-AA... so, for those that may not recall back... but when Lamada Mitchell left as our vice-provost for Academic Affairs, it's been going on probably, what... 18 months now... over a year and a half... Dolores was able to take on both roles... you know, a challenging ask... but was in both roles there for a bit... and so, one of the things that I talked through with her was making sure that   we had a commitment from the college to have an acting VP-AA in the role as soon as possible... and for the full academic year... so, the regular VP-AA job... it's not being put on hold, but it's been put on a longer process. So, if that's something you're tracking or following the Myers McRae group, the external group that's supporting the college in that endeavor... is changing the start... the expected start date, to July of next year. Once we knew that Dolores moved from acting to interim... and I had a better idea about how long I would be in this acting provost role... I felt that was an important step, not only for the provost office, but for all of you as well. It's really supporting the Deans and letting the Deans focus on their divisions, by having that VP-AA in place... so, look forward to announce... hopefully, the new VP-AA acting position sometime early next week is the goal... and then obviously there will be a few  dominoes that fall since then... from then... because all the candidates were internal candidates... so, that's probably the best update I can give you...   if there's other questions from my conversation  this morning... oh, Maggie, go ahead ---Maggie Golston: Hey, Dr Jeff T... Thies... ---Jeff Thies: I'm sorry Magie I didn't catch the first part of that. ---Maggie Golston: Is there someone who's going to be in your position? ---Jeff Thies: Oh, yes... so, Irene has graciously... Irene Robles-Lopez, who I was reporting to in that position, has graciously taken on the direct support of those team members that used to report directly to me in that position... and we talked with that group... and given, very similar to all of you... given the busy nature of trying to get ready for Fall, we thought it would be best to let us all get through that phase... and then Irene will be running, you know, similarly an acting dean of CRSS... that will go out, probably, sometime at the end of this month.. Irene, is that the plan... end of August? With a... hopefully, a fairly quick turnaround... so, those folks have somebody that they can connect to directly... in the meantime, you know, they still reach out to me a little bit   and obviously Irene's been a great support  person for them as well. ---Rita Lennon: Very good... any other questions? Okay... well, thank you so much for your welcome message and we look forward to working with you... ---Jeff Thies: Thank you all... I appreciate you. ---Rita Lennon: Roll up our sleeves, thank you... okay, we'll go ahead and move on to the next item on the agenda, and that is welcome and introductions... I have a little bit of a... let's see if I can smoothly do this... I think we know me by now... there's not going to be anything smooth about it, but let's see. Okay... can everyone see my screen okay? Wonderful, thank you so much. Okay... so we have... first of all, we're going to need to... in a minute we're going to need to approve the May meeting minutes... but before we do that, I would just like to introduce everyone... we have question quite a few new members to our representatives... to the senators... but we also have a couple of new officers... and so, I would like to share that first. So, my reign or term or whatever, ends... reign... sounds ridiculous... [chuckling] my term ends in January... and so, I will be graciously giving over the crown to Denise Reilly, who is our president elect... her and I are going to be working closely together this semester, so that she is trained up and feels confident in this role...   and knows what she needs to do to  keep the ball rolling... and you know, take on new initiatives. We have Maggie Golston, who is now our VP... we elected her last semester. Governing board representative... we are going to... there's only 3 meetings this semester... so we're going to... Denise Riley and I are going to share that role... it didn't really make sense asking anyone to to kind of fill the shoes, because, per our Charter, there's nothing in there that says that the president elect cannot accept that role... but I would like to see what it's like... maybe I'll do that next, who knows... or at least try. We also have secretary, Kelly O'Keefe, who is remaining in her role... and then we have Sean Mendoza, who seems like, you know, man... you've been in this role for a long time... you must be tired. [chuckles] but he is our adjunct faculty board rep... and the subcommittee chair for the adjunct subcommittee. Okay... I'm not going to read this, I know, like Kelly said in an earlier meeting... I know you all are able to read, so I won't read this to you... but we do have a couple of newer members... so, I would like to bring those... raise those up. So, we have Mano Sotel... Mano Sotelo, who's actually going to finish his term this meeting... and then he's going to be replaced by someone else in the Arts... so, we'll introduce him next month...   We have Sherry Miller and Greg Watson for business and IT...  we have Rosemary Ortega, and actually, Katie Challenger is not going to be in Health Professions anymore... we're going to have a new member for them starting next semester... so, Rosemary Ortega... I'm sorry, you're in Health Professions as well... Maha Baddar is going to be stepping in for Brooke in Communications... and I do believe that's... oh my goodness Mayra I'm so sorry... I was doing  this late last night... you are currently known as "Mayray"... and you might just stay that for the rest of today... but Myra Cortes-Torres, you are also new to Communications... we have mathematics... Allison Stacey and Alex Armstrong and Shivang Desai... I'm sorry if I murdered your name, and everyone else, I do believe, is you've been here for a while... so, welcome. Okay... for those of you who are new, I know that I wasn't quite sure about this when I started senate a million years ago... but our meetings are the first Friday of every month... we do have the schedule already available on pima.edu... just type in the search engine, "faculty senate"... because that's the easiest way to find us. So, pima.edu, and then search "faculty senate"... you'll see our meeting schedule... but here it is right here for you... and our Zoom meeting link is always the same... so, you can always use this Zoom link, and it's always going to take you to the meeting... our meetings are generally 1:00 to 3:00... and we try not to go over. And all are welcome, you don't have to be a senator to attend our meetings... however, only senators will vote at our meetings. And again, for those of you who are new... the purpose is to ensure that faculty are involved in all academic matters... that doesn't mean that we're always going to get our say in everything that we want... but we should at least have our voice heard and considered, before changes are made... we've been working very hard alongside our administrators to promote share governance... and we just had a discussion about that in another meeting with Faculty Learning Academy...   I know a couple of you are here from that... so, I won't talk about that too much in this meeting, but it's something that we've been  fighting for for a long time... and I think those who are in charge recognize that... and are working alongside us, to ensure that, when anything is considered that all people who will be affected... that they're at the table, from the beginning... so that, we can ensure that all perspectives are considered... so, moving along here... just a quick overview... we want to ensure that we're following what the HLC's assured argument states, which is, um... I'm blanking on that... I'm sorry... it's been a long day of meetings... but that faculty participates substantially in all of these areas... especially curriculum development, that we are ensuring that students are learning what they need to and they're successful... and that we are assessing them based on that... and then also, that we are collecting data...   analyzing that data... and then making decisions  based on what that data told us... all important things. I'm going to go ahead and stop sharing now, and we'll move back over to the agenda here. 123 00:13:42,424 --> 00:13:49,934 And the agenda now for item number one is to... sounded weird but... for approval of May minute... meeting minutes... and so I'm... they're on... they're attached to the agenda... but I'm also going to share them here in chat for you... so that we can take a quick look... I know May seems quite a while ago... I wasn't even at that meeting so it never even happened for me... [chuckles] but please... all senators, please take a quick look at the meeting minutes from May, and then we'll we'll take a quick vote. As we are doing that... for guests and anyone who's here... if you wouldn't mind, going ahead and signing-in, you know, both in the sign-in sheet, but also we'd like to take who's here in chat... so, if you wouldn't mind putting your name, and the area of the college that you represent... I'd appreciate that as well. Fantastic... and we do have a motion to approve... I do need a second. ---Maggie Golston: A second from Lisa. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you so much... okay, our meeting... our May meeting minutes are approved as submitted... wonderful... thank you so much. and I appreciate appreciate everyone putting in your name and title in chat as well... please continue to do so as we move along in the meeting. So, our 3rd item, we can go ahead and skip to, because I've already done that here... we have this wonderful discussion that keeps coming back around and that discussion is... do we want to move back to in-person meetings or are we going to stay virtual? So, this is a discussion that senators will have... I'm just going to open it up... please just go ahead and raise your hand if you have something to say about it, or put something in chat... Denise... Kelly... I'll ask you to manage the chat... I'll manage the hands. So, once again... ---Denise Reilly: Some in the chat... maybe we call on them... I think the first one I see is... Carolyn says, virtual... a couple say virtual... 144 00:15:54,388 --> 00:16:01,843 and a couple say HyFlex... so, if they want to share why... [chuckles]  or right next next to it why... 145 00:16:01,843 --> 00:16:04,609 or any comments. ---Cora Varas-Nelson: I said, virtual, because I think it will make it easier for more faculty to attend. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... seems like everyone in the chat is still saying virtual, for time and ease... attendance is easier. Makyla has a good option... a good thought here... maybe once a semester in-person, with it streamed, but virtual for the typical meeting. ---Sherry Miller: I would just like to add that I'm a 100% remote employee, out of state... so, an in-person isn't an option for me. ---Rita Lennon: Understood, okay... thank you... yeah... so, Carolyn asked to space that can hold us. We always used to go to the Amethyst Room, Downtown... and once upon a time, we would kind of do a traveling... we'd go West, Downtown, when Community was a thing. ---Denise Reilly: Rita, if I can add... one thing to mention is, last year the faculty senate officer's team planned for All Faculty Day in January to be in-person, completely... yeah, we had lunch... it all was planned... and about 3 weeks prior to coming back.. or actually it was before the end of the semester, I think... Kate probably recalls this... Schmidt... um... we were told not to have it in-person, because at that time the holiday break was supposed to have COVID spikes... so, we didn't want to plan for an event and then  have to go that... so, I might suggest that we do  the All Faculty Day in-person, which is kind of nice... and then maybe, the rest of the meetings virtually... and figure out something for those like Sherry mentioned, that can't even maybe go to All Faculty Day in-person, that fully work remotely... if that's a kind of hybrid option. [chuckles] ---Rita Lennon: Is there any discussion on that? Would that be something you all would be interested in? So, I've been president since September of 2021, and the entire time that I've been president, has been in these little boxes here... and one thing I think that has been missed, since I've been, you know, playing this role is the engagement... the discussion... I miss the discussion that we used to have in the Amethyst Room... you know, around the table and all that. I'll tell you what I don't miss... I don't miss the line of administrators that were on their phones or on their laptops or whatever... or even the faculty, who were on their laptops or on their phones... and really not paying attention... I loved the idea of us coming together and discussing matters that mattered to us, right... that were going to affect us... and I feel like we do miss that when we're here in this, because people, you know, we're like... we've got an agenda... we need to keep to the agenda... we don't want to like, you know, derail the meeting... so, we tend to stay quiet... or maybe we're trying to multitask... it is beginning of semester... we're trying to get our syllabi done... maybe our class is completed, whatever... but you know, that that is a... that is an issue that I've seen. So, I think we keep pushing for the in-person, just so that we could probably, hopefully, bring back that dialogue.   But if maybe we could commit this semester to senators, you know, being more vocal, being more willing to speak up... and I will do a better job, I promise, while I'm still here, to call on you and open it up to senators, so that you do have the opportunity to talk... would that be a good kind of compromise? Okay... Denise... you're on mute. ---Denise Reilly: [laughing] No I just realized... I was playing with the reactions... the one thing, I do want to echo that... and say, the one thing that I've heard in different circles is that... oftentimes in these meetings, there's some faculty senators I've never seen on camera before... I don't know... I know when we take a vote, they're present... so, I do know that that's an issue... and I know that this is something we can decide as faculty senators, because it's not being told to us by administration... but there have been talks about the desire for more faculty to come back to Campus and more in-Campus presence... so, I do think something that is missing, like you said, from the Amethyst Room, is the before and after conversations that were had... and oftentimes, kind of, the creative discussions that take place when you're physically in a setting... but that's, you know... that's something that's difficult, because you have the parking and you have the Downtown Campus...   and the commute for everybody... but at  the same time there is something missing that probably many recognized this morning, when they were at the big physical, in-present, or you know, in-person meeting that does take place when you see folks that you don't see... because you know, you're not at the same Campus... you're not in the same groupings, ever... other than once a year... so, I would highly advocate for at least the facul... All Faculty Day in January... and maybe even like, a May end-of-semester... when we celebrate the faculty emeritus folks... and we used to actually present to them and say... hey, do you... if you want to say a few words... yes I understand... sometimes the meetings went really long, Lisa... because the few words, from the few people, took a long time, but maybe January and May... maybe that's a good  compromise... the beginning of the semester and the end of semester in-person... and then the rest  of them be virtual... so, that's my 2-cents... thank you. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... Tal, I saw your hand up... oh, but you  know, now it's kind of hidden by the yellow. [laughing] ---Tal Sutton: So, hopefully to... hopefully, quick points... just to  add to what Denise said... I do feel like certain topics   lend themselves more nicely to in-person... I feel like when we are going over board policy when we actually question the presenters or the stakeholders, who are presenting the changes to the policies... we get better discourse when we're there in-person... whereas, it's oftentimes like crickets virtually. So, some topics, I think, kind of lend themselves more nicely... so, I don't know which... I maybe... leads into the 2nd point... I just want to make... is reiterating what Makyla had said in chat... I think, dipping our toes in with one for a semester... because I think a fair number of senators that were asking if they would prefer in person or virtual, never have done in-person if they are new senators... and then, I think, for myself, who have done both... I might be looking at in-person meetings through like, rose tinted glasses, and maybe I will hate them again, if I experience them again... I don't know... but... I think maybe dipping our toe in first, with one solid meeting in-person... so that we all, kind of, can have a more informed comparison... might be nice. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... Sean. ---Sean Mendoza: Yes... you know... my preference is really more for the virtual meetings... but I do understand the need to have people connect face-to-face... because I mean, to be honest... that's... that is really the best way to be able to connect with people, this is not a natural thing, right... but I think... there... I... but I also do understand that there are some limitations... that some faculty... some adjunct faculty... have a tough time being able to make the meetings... and you know, having a virtual space is really a great way for them to be able to participate in these meetings. So, I think... I guess maybe... what I wanted to suggest is that... I mean the college has a number of different resources available... so, why don't we have like, a really great, you know, I mean like, for example... I can see that Dolores is sitting in a nice... really in a nice conference room there, like that... and I know that if we had a room like that where people can engage and see each other face-to-face, but also have an opportunity for people like me and Sherry, who are in a virtu... you know that would have a preference of a virtual space... that would a way for us to be able to participate... you know, it's sort of like having our cake and eat it too, right... so, I would suggest, why not... why don't we... well, let's just look... I know there are resources that the College has that will allow us to be able to do this...  so, let's take advantage of that... and so, those folks who feel compelled to be able to meet face-to-face, or have time to be able to do that... that would, I mean, by all means, let's... let's go where Dolores is... looks like there might even be ice cream... I thought I saw something on the chat that said that, somebody was going to be giving us ice cream... so, something like that would be a great way to be able to get people to show up... and, yeah... so, that's my 2-cents. ---Rita Lennon: I like it... Amorette, Tiffany. ---Tiffany Amorette Young: Thanks... so, I've never witnessed faculty senate in-person... it is something that I would like to do. It did feel good being back, just so that I can, you know, make better connections with all of you... you've all just been little boxes, and I've probably been a little box to you... I also have to pick up my daughter and I'm a single mom and I have places that I need to go... and if it wasn't virtual, I don't know that I would have been able to serve... so, I want there to be an option for an in-person component... but I also want it to be married with the ability to still attend virtually... be able to step out if I need to, to pick her up from school... I am usually on, listening on my phone as I'm doing things... I also, in the past, have taught up to 4 different Campuses... and so, given those things that I've just said...  my... I would love for us to figure out an in-person component with the virtual, kind of HyFlex, as we've called it here at Pima... and that is something that I would really support. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... okay... looks like we have our homework officers to locate some HyFlex areas that might be large enough for us to have, you know, maybe upwards of half of us in-person... I did see that the... that District was an option... I would say that I would vote for continuing to keep it more central, so that, you know, that's what has worked best for us in the past... is Downtown or West Campus... West Campus is offline so much, I don't know if that's going to be an option... but maybe Desert Vista... not Desert Vista... I'm sorry, Downtown Campus could be... what I had... was told before, with HyFlex and Amethyst, was that it wasn't an option, because it's not set up to be that... and I don't know how long it would take to, you know, get all of that set up... so, that's our homework... what about a compromise for this semester... that we do count on All Faculty Day in January? So, I guess not this semester, but maybe this academic year... I should be a little bit more correct. And so, All Faculty Day, we could plan on that being in-person and we'll just keep everybody... we'll remind every, all of us, that that's going to happen... and we'll continue  to work on HyFlex for Spring semester. So, let's just kind of keep this as virtual now... and then, once we're done with the holidays and we're coming back in January, we can work on that... and I do believe I am stepping a little bit on the new president's toes... so please, if that's not, you know, a direction... it just sounds like that's what our senators want, so if that's not the direction we take then that's that... so, I do see that the Northwest Campus  does hold about 25 to 30 people in their HyFlex classroom. Um... okay... so, maybe Northwest. ---Sean Mendoza: Rita... Maggie has her hand up. ---Rita Lennon: I'm sorry yes... Maggie, please. You're on mute. ---Maggie Golston: One thing that would sway me away from in-person would be that issue with the Amethyst Room, where everything slows down, because we're passing a microphone and naming ourselves for the recording... like that was such a giant drag... and I... it wasn't the only reason senate was 4 hours, but it was one of them. So, yeah... I definitely think the there is an inherent advantage in virtual, in that, we don't have to do all that stuff. ---Rita Lennon: Right... one of the things I get a pat on the back for a lot is the fact that I keep meetings on time. [chuckles] I'm like... it's not hard when you're not in-person and you don't have to try and like, you know, cut someone off. I don't think we have Britney Spears mics for every senator, but you know, I could work on that too. Someone got a budget... some money in their budget, they want to work on that with? Just kidding. Okay... so, looks like we have a game plan for this semester... we'll keep it virtual... and we officers will work on looking for HyFlex space... and we'll also plan for All Faculty Day to be in-person. Okay... so now, we're already on our final discussion for today... but we are halfway through our meeting time, so that's good... we have enough time to discuss... and that is... man, do we have a lot of things that have changed at this institution, right... I have to tell you that I felt the change in the air today when we were at the All College Day. The message, the tone, the celebratory energy... if felt like everyone was just happy and excited. It certainly didn't hurt with the energy that that keynote speaker brought... wow, if I could have just a drop of his energy I think that I could like continue on until the end of the semester with no problem... what an amazing speaker... what an amazing story and triumph. but what I would like to do is hear from you... there are a couple of links that I wanted to remind you, that are in the agenda... we do have some faculty senate approved syllabus statements... whooh... that was tough sentence for me to say at the end of the day and we also have some AI syllabus statement... a template for that as well. So please, keep a... take a look at that and consider adding those, if it's appropriate for your class. However, I want to stop talking... I want to open up my ears and listen... what are some of the current changes that you're excited about or have more questions about or just want to talk about? Tough question, huh? I don't have my chat open, so let me look at that too. ---Cora Varas-Nelson: Oh, they have somebody else. ---Sean Mendoza: Yeah, Mollie has her hand up. ---Rita Lennon: Yeah, Mollie... go ahead please. --Mollie Minke: Well you would think I would know how to run this by now... okay... [chuckles] anyway, I was curious if you have heard, or if we have a timeline on how long we will have a acting Chancellor... and when they expect the new or permanent Chancellor to be in place... has there been any discussions about about how how long we're looking at for that? Thank you. ---Rita Lennon: We... we do have information about that, but the Chancellor is in her room... [chuckles] she cannot speak... oh, I see her getting up. Should I commentate... she's getting up... she's moving... [laughing] she's entering Kate's room. And we've lost her. ---Dolores Duran-Cerda: Okay... can you see and hear me? ---Rita Lennon: I can... we can hear you, but not see you. ---Dolores Duran-Cerda: Okay... so, Kate's laptop isn't working... so, I'm now on her phone... [laughing] So, to answer Molly's question... so, there's going to be a national search for the permanent Chancellor... and there's going to be an advisory committee made up of internal folks and external folks... and I'm not quite sure when that's going to start, but it's going to be very soon. So, whenever that is complete, that's when my term as interim Chancellor will end. So, I'm thinking... they had said maybe 6 to 9 months something like that... could be longer... could be less. So, that's the best I can share with you right now. Okay... I'm giving the phone back to Kate. ---Rita Lennon: Now my mute was off... I'm so... my mute was on... sorry... Tal you have the floor. ---Tal Sutton: Thanks... and I'll preface this with there's no bad ideas in brainstorming... but, on... to further this conversation about the search for Provost and Chancellor... have the officers at all talked about ways that we could make the faculty interests best known to the Board... before they start this search? Like, would we want to do a survey amongst faculty to identify what we want prioritized,   or what we highly value in our Chancellor and  in our Provost, who is our chief academic officer...   something along those lines... and I'm not sure what it would look like... that's why I'm like, hesitant to throw out ideas... but I feel like now is the time in this window to make our interests and desires and wants known, in some way that can be synthesized and used thoughtfully by the Board? ---Rita Lennon: I love that idea... absolutely... I mean again, I guess we can preface that with, this is our thoughts and our hopes... but you know, of course, there's no guarantee... like, we're gonna... it's kind of like when you're buying a new house... [laughing] you're like, I have all of these desires for my new house, but you know, you might have to compromise on a few... I think that that's really good, that we pole the... I'm sorry... the faculty and get an idea of what everybody likes. So, yeah... we'll talk about it in the officer meeting next... and come up with a way... a healthy way... to do that survey. Yeah... and hopefully, we'll have results by September...  what do you think guys? Think we can pull that off? Sure... I saw Sean shake his head, and he has 14 jobs... so, [laughs] ---Sean Mendoza: Morgan has his hand up. ---Rita Lennon: Morgan, thank you. ---Morgan Phillips: So, I was just going to share with you from experience with CEO searches... other places, most of the search consultants is part of their process... do what Tal is talking about, which is... they involve the community and the college and the employees... all in discussions about "what are we looking for in the next CEO"... that's one of the reasons the searches generally take a good amount of time... Dolores was saying 6 to 9 months... I would think that that would be a short search compared to what I have seen at equivalent institutions to Pima Community College. So, I would encourage you if you're talking to individuals connected to the Board, tell them to make sure to include in their looking at the search companies, they're using someone that's going to do a complete search, with all those pieces. ---Rita Lennon: Excellent, thank you. Anything else? I'm seeing some really great things in chat... Denise go ahead. ---Denise Reilly: I just wanted to mention that quite a few are giving feedback from All College Day, and something interesting I think is that, I'm not sure there's anyone in faculty that was represented on the All College Day planning committee... so, I'm not sure how All College Day is receiving feedback or requesting feedback from the event... as I see many people are putting comments in the chat... but perhaps something to change would be having a faculty representative on the committee for planning All College Day... that way, if there is feedback to be given, it could be given to that representative... so, just throwing that out there. ---Rita Lennon: okay. You know, and I don't, I... refresh my memory... I don't remember if faculty have ever been represented on All College Day, because that is coming from the Chancellor's office... and I realize, you know, that might be something that we do now, but I think in the past, that wasn't the case... All Faculty Day of course, is from through the Provost office and so, faculty were more involved in planning that day... but definitely something to consider for sure. Okay... I want to look at some of these things... there were some really great messages about sustainability... so, considering that, you know, we are... we have sustainability in our strategic plan, we should consider eliminating water bottles... and you know, have multiple sources around... and balloons... and that's true... that's a good point. Oh, so... there was a couple of issues with  All College Day that I heard from faculty, such as the chat being disabled on the virtual meeting, which made it hard to participate virtually. That's right... you know, as as faculty, who are teaching either virtually or online, we want to make it as engaging as possible... and we need to hear from our students while we're doing that... and so, if we are disabling the ability to speak while you're virtual in these meetings... and that's something that I have noticed, like in Board meetings... when they were virtual, they disabled the ability to chat on YouTube... and so, they're not capturing a lot of the audience's thoughts and concerns and questions... great point... Tiffy. ---Tiffany Amorette Young: Just thinking about sustainability... I think that this year sustainability and climate action are very much on our minds... and I think that there is a desire to push the institution to be more sustainable... and I know we do that in our classes... I know that we're introducing some, you know, really awesome pedagogy also... around sustainability and climate action... this year, pending the approval of the EGTSS's events... funding coming through... we really wanted to focus our summit on sustainability... and really showcase how to put on an event that is sustainable... and so, if you are a faculty member or anybody who's interested in being a part of that, please come and speak with me and let me know... because I would love to see some more initiatives of sustainability institutional wide... and I think that that would be good for everyone... for our community... I mean, right... I don't need to talk about all the little... all the different levels of benefits that this could do... and yeah... just because things like seeing balloons  and wondering... that's what I was thinking too,   I was right in the front and I was like... are they going to reuse the balloons... do these balloons get repurposed? [chuckles] And what about repurposing... and what can we do for our environment? And what can we teach... and how can we build together... and what can our events look like in the future? And what, you know... we can think globally and  act locally... and what does that mean for us? And so, I really hope that, if there's some desire there, that you will send me an email and I'll start compiling a list... because I think that we could do a lot in terms of sustainability. ---Rita Lennon: Wonderful, thank you... I'm trying to keep up with what is being shared in chat as well... but if anybody wants to speak about what they're putting in chat, if I maybe have missed what you have said, please do. ---Denise Reilly: Rita, I think there's some comments aside from the All College Day that are going on related to the Chancellor's search... if anyone wanted to talk about that. I did see that Kate Schmidt said that Dolores, or our Chancellor, is going to get the feedback, somehow to the All College Day team... but if those want speak  about a lot of the hiring process of the Chancellor. ---Rita Lennon: No. [chuckles] ---Denise Reilly: Or we can just type about it, because we don't want to speak about it, right... come on. [laughs] ---Rita Lennon: Oh, Maggie. ---Maggie Golston: I was reading Terry's comment about, you know, recruiters and consultants and... I don't know that I agree... especially since we've  had failed searches from Consultants... right? If I... if I remember correctly... and that feels like, really costly... and takes a lot of time... and we have just so many vacant... I mean... I don't know, my feeling is that that's something that feels like   it's become more prevalent in higher ed, only in the last decade or so... and... [clear's throat] anyway...   so, I think there are big downsides to these consultancy firms... and especially if there... I mean   there was a particular search that failed that was no... was really unimpressive to me... so anyway, thanks. ---Rita Lennon: Makyla. ---Makyla Hays: Yeah... I just figured, I've probably been watching the Board pretty closely compared to a lot of faculty... so I can share a little bit about what I've seen... but what I've noticed with these search firms at this level... I'm not talking about all levels, but I'm talking about chancellor search firms... first, I just want to share what our Board just did... in making Dolores interim Chancellor, what they did was, they actually cut out a firm... so, they were going to be using the registry, and they chose to keep Dolores until we get a permanent, and not go with that search firm... Elliot I saw your comment about rent-a Chancellor that's pretty much what the registry does... if you're not part of their system, they don't put you forward. So, we won't be getting the rent-a Chancellor, [chuckles] we get Dolores, who knows Pima and can help us with HLC and all that other stuff... that's great... what I did notice is that, from the chancellor searches... I don't know what firm we're going to use... but a lot of chancellors are members of things like ACCT... and some of these other larger firms... and they have relationships with these firm... or the other organizations that have relationships with the firm... so, those firms  can actually call chancellors... and call... recruit people that we may not know about... and hopefully, get us a wider pool of people that are actually chancellor level. And I think that's why it's gone that way in the last 10 years because we've gone so widespread and virtual that having that personal connection is helpful... but yeah... I don't think we're going to get a rent-a Chancellor but I'm hoping that we can get a firm that will do a good job sourcing somebody that we really want... but it's going to be up to us to put together... well, us as Pima, to put together a really good description of what we want. So that we can get somebody in here that can do  what we need... that's just my perspective...   I do feel like this Board really wants to make  a good choice... so, that's that gives me hope. ---Rita Lennon: All right... I know we've been talking about big picture here, you know, like the future of the Chancellor spot...  the future of the Provost spot... but let's bring it closer to home... I mean, you know, who do we serve? We serve students and we serve community, right... were there messages that came out of All College Day that really, you know, tore at your heartstrings, and you want to implement or you want to talk about, that are going to affect our ability to teach our students, community... what do you got for me there? ---Ally Stacey: I was really inspired by his... by the motivational... or the keynote... talking about how the teacher wanted to know about him and I have this assignment that I can use and now I want to use it... that's a math autobiography, where the students write to me about their experiences... and seeing that keynote made me think... oh, this is very valuable, because it's like... it's me saying... I want to know you. ---Rita Lennon: Yeah... that got me too... and then I felt like, why haven't I been doing that all this time? [chuckles] It's like you get these treasures and you're like... ah... I should have been doing that all this time... I'm not teaching Writing 025... but boy-oh-boy, I could add that to my... all my classes... that would be awesome. What a funny... you know... [chuckles] I just love that you thought remedial was like advanced classes... I mean, what a perspective that is, right... he had his chest out, he was like... oh, man... I'm so cool... [chuckles] till his mom, of all people, his mom had to like, bring him back down to... oh, that's just funny. All right, what else? I... my chat went away for some reason... so, someone want to help me out? Anything else in chat going on? "I care" matters so much... yeah, you know... I can't tell you how many times I'm walking around and I'll see a student, who like, as soon as they see that I'm not a student they'll like put their eyes down... and then, I'll make it a point to say, "hello" or something to them... and they're just like... oh, hi... hi, I just love that. Anything else? I'm the only one sharing here... come on. ---Kelly O'Keefe: I'll go ahead and share... I think... I think some of us here teach exclusively online... and as the senator representing PimaOnline, I would like to just kind of put 2-cents in in regards to extending a virtual arm of caring to our students that do not see  us in person... or are even, you know, cross country, and don't even have the opportunity to come to visit us... there's so many other things that you can do to personalize... and get to know those students... and being actively engaged in discussion boards, videos, virtual calls, phone calls... I have some adjuncts that hand out their cell phone numbers... I don't know that I would suggest that for all of us. [laughs] they welcome texting... and that's, you know... to each his own in that regard... but there's just so many things that we can do that maybe aren't being done... and if you are... wonderful, congratulations... I know that over the years I've developed  a lot of new ways of getting to know my students personally... but you know, a lot of times I think the online instructors kind of fall back from that... so, just wanted to throw that out there. ---Rita Lennon: Thank you... all right... final homework... [laughing] for senators... ---Denise Reilly: Rita, are you feeling okay? ---Rita Lennon: Let me... let me get this out so they can be doing this... and then, I'll turn it over to you, okay? Senators... actually, all faculty who are here... anyone really... if you have an idea for a study session that we should have this semester, please put it in chat... we would love to  start going ahead and gathering that information. As you may remember, study sessions are what we do in-between 2 senate meetings... we try and, you know, flank them on either side... so that, if we do need to bring it in to a senate meeting and have a vote on it, then we don't have to wait too long... we also try to make sure that it's somewhere around the time that we're going to be meeting with our administrator... so, if we do need to pull something in and you know start talking about that with administration, then it's not just sitting out there and waiting forever either. So, topics need to be about academic matters however... we cannot be talking about something that is outside of the senate's purview... so please, start sharing those... I know, I love that too... Makyla just wrote, I love Jeff's message about limiting the new... I've heard that in a couple of different venues... and I just... I love that... I love it so much... one more thing Denise, I promise... I'm going to be quiet real quick but I wanted to also recognize that... Chuck, you had mentioned something last semester to me, and I didn't get around to it... and I promise you that, we will this semester... and that is working with the administration about getting our surveys in a timely manner from our students... our student feedback... because you're right, it does... something that Chuck had mentioned, Chuck Wacker, was that... we use this data to like make decisions... you know, both like, in the now... trying to change our... anything that's going on in our classroom immediately...   that we need to change... but also to like, look at trends and like make decisions for the future. And so, if we aren't getting it in a timely manner, then it really is you know impossible for us to be able to do that. So, I promise you that we're going to take that on... the officers are going to take that on... and now it's in meeting minutes, so I can't get away from it... [chuckles] all right Denise, please go ahead, you have the floor. ---Denise Reilly: I mean, mine already got taken because Makyla put it in the chat... but I was going to say that I really like the signature line 457 00:52:20,647 --> 00:52:27,447 in Dr. Jeff Thies' message... saying, you know... AY24 Improve, Follow Through & Limit the New... and I'm going to steal that and put it in my signature line, but I really liked that message in general, which Mya brought up, is... limit the new, just do what we do, and do it in a quality manner, rather than focus on more initiatives, new initiatives, doing new things, forming new groups,  and new... sorry, new committees of all things, right...   you all know how I feel about that... but instead,  just do what we do in a quality manner... and just focus on what we're already doing... yes, and not going after the shiny new thing... but I just... I really appreciated that... and I think that sentiment was shared throughout all the different speakers... like focus on what we can do... welcoming students, being positive, and welcoming them everywhere across the college... it doesn't matter what your role is... but how you can build that relationship with everyone... and I think those were... those were echoed greatly... so, I'm taking it Jeff, thank you. ---Rita Lennon: One question I do want to answer... thank you very  much... you're taking it... well, at least you're like honest and you're telling people you're stealing their work, you know... so, just... I guess if you put like Jeff Thies at the bottom of that... [laughing] then that would be fine. One thing I wanted to address was... Carolyn, you asked... what are some of the topics already covered? Well, here's the thing... so, if we've already covered that topic and our senators don't remember it, then that means we haven't done enough work on that area, right... so, if we've covered that topic and, ehhh... somewhere back there, but we don't really remember what we did with it... then let's keep working on that topic. So again, kind of like the the whole tagline follow through... so please, if you think that there's something that you want   us to address, then let's address it... okay, anything else? Anything else? That's how I end my classes too... anything else we need to talk about? [chuckles] Let's go ahead and go. I think there's a pub or at least a coffee in my future... how about that? Or both... let's do a Guinness coffee... I don't know... to learn more about instruction in the Second Chance Pell program. Absolutely, what a cool option... yeah... okay... so, let's... I'm gonna gather all this information... I'll reach out to everyone who has put something in, if I need more information than what you have  shared... so please, keep adding that information... if we close the meeting and you didn't have a  chance to add it to the chat, or say it out loud... email me or email all the officers actually... so, just type in faculty senate officers... and we're a group and we work on everything together. Okay... so, we have about 3 more minutes, is there anything else we want to talk about in those 3 minutes? ---Maggie Golston: We did have a motion to adjourn. ---Rita Lennon: Did we already... goodness you guys didn't want to spend 3 more minutes me? Okay... so there's a motion to adjourn ---Maggie Golston: And a second ---Rita Lennon: And a second... wonderful... thank you so much... this is a great meeting... first meeting is always just... [snaps fingers] boom it's done. So, wonderful... have a great beginning to your semester, and I'll see you in September.