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DEMION CLINCO: Good evening, and welcome to the November 4, 2020 regular Governing Board meeting to order. I'm going to call the meeting to order. The first item on our agenda is the roll call. Mr. Silvyn? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Demion Clinco? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Present. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Meredith Hay? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Present. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Mark Hanna? >> MR. MARK HANNA: For the last time, present. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Maria Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Present. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Luis Gonzales? >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: Present. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: All board members are present. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Terrific. Next we have remarks by the Governing Board, and I think the best thing to do is why don't we do our remarks, and then we have a recognition of Mr. Hanna and his time on the board, which is a little unusual because we are in a Zoom context, but I think we all definitely want to share some thoughts. Let's go ahead and get started with the remarks. I will begin. First, I want to thank the 70% of Pima County voters who resoundingly endorsed and voted for Prop 481 and, by extension, the direction that the college is going. It's huge for our institution, huge for our community and a tremendous recognition I think of the work this entire institution has been doing for the last six years. In particular, I want to thank the Yes for Pima College co-chairs Ted Maxwell, Nancy Johnson, Rod Draper, Celine Sanchez. I also want to recognize former mayor, Jon Rothschild, and Katie Turney who did a tremendous amount of work to raise funds and support this initiative. Also Nicole Barraza (indiscernible) Agency who helped run the campaign. I also want to make a special acknowledgement to Mayor Regina Romero and elected officials throughout our region who endorsed this effort and understood the importance to the people of Tucson and Pima County. I also want to thank Marcy Euler, president of the PCC Foundation and her amazing board for the work they did. Finally, I want to thank the members of the board who worked to promote this ballot measure, walking door to door, sending e-mails, connecting with the community and by voting to refer it to the ballot. The passage of this proposition will position this college strategically to serve this community as part of the coming recovery and continue to serve this community for years and years to come. Also, I just wanted to note last night the passage of Prop 207 which will create a revenue stream for the college which will not be insignificant. Finally, this election cycle, two candidates stepped forward with incredible r�sum�s and connections to the college and commitment to the institution, both Cat Ripley and Ethan Orr ran campaigns that were issue-based, civil, and reflected the civic values of PCC. I want to thank them both for stepping out to run. It's not easy, and they brought excellent attention to the college and the importance of this board and its role in providing oversight to the institution. Cat Ripley won the election and is replacing Mark Hanna, who was not seeking an additional term. I personally want to welcome her to the board. I know we all look forward to getting to know you and working together, making PCC even better. Those are my remarks for this evening. Next I'm going to pass to Ms. Garcia. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Okay. First I would like to extend my sincere thanks to your attendance. I understand that you attend because you care about the direction that Pima Community College leadership is taking the college in. I would also like to state, as a matter of public record, that I will continue to raise concerns and questions on improprieties when it concerns any aspect of the college, its students, staff, and faculty. I will not allow this institution to be managed to the detriment of the college that was instituted to serve the community. I welcome Cat Ripley to the board, and I hope to work with you soon. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Dr. Hay? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: I also want to add my thanks to the community who voted to support Pima College. It is going to be transformational in our growth and our plans and transformational to our students and our community. So thank you, all, who were on the line. Also welcome Cat to the board, and I look forward to working with you. As is my tradition, I would like to yield the rest of my time to Mr. Hanna. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: I'm going to let Mr. Hanna go last this evening. Mr. Gonzalez, if you'd like to comment. >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: I just want to echo what was said as well too. I do want to, first of all, thank the staff, faculty, everybody that's been committed in this challenging times in reference to the virus that we have but also the community as a whole, Tucson community, in reference to passing the 481, but also the two other ones that will provide not only additional support and funds to the college but also to the K12 system. I think those are the individuals, the students from the K12, that will be receiving those funds from the 208, I think it's great for them to be future students of Pima, but I do want to thank the community in reference to supporting education as we all know as advocates of education and the community as advocates of education. I think it's a win-win. I really feel very honored to be here tonight, but more important, really happy with the response from the community. Not only with the 481 that's going to be beneficial to Pima Community College but also for the K12 system, 208, and the 207 that's going to be also providing some assistance to us. I think it's outstanding, and I think it's great. I commend everybody that voted out there, and we will have to continue this advocacy that we have through Pima College and I think it's going to be a good year once -- it will be good (smiling). Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. Finally, Mr. Hanna. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thank you, Chairman Clinco. I know we have a lot on the agenda tonight. I will try to keep this short, unlike most of my remarks over the last six years. But here we go. You know what? This is really a bittersweet moment for me. I love Pima Community College. 20 years ago, you took in a guy who had never gotten a college degree and helped me realize my dream of becoming an educator. Seven years ago, as a high school college counselor, I saw this great institution in trouble, and I worried what was going to happen to my first-generation students for whom Pima would be (indiscernible) out of poverty and on to a better life. I ran for the board, and seven years ago today woke to the news that I had won. My experiences over the past six years have been some of the best of my life, especially working with my fellow board members, the chancellor, administrators, faculty, staff, and students. The highlights include being part of an unbelievable team who worked so hard to lift the Higher Learning Commission sanctions of our college, leaving us to be a much stronger service to our students. The redesign of our dev ed program that has made such a big difference for those students who might not have been prepared for college. Introduction of guided pathways to increase our retention and graduation rates, as well as save our students money. The success of our adult education and IBEST programs. The creation and operation of our immigrant and refugee student resource center, something (indiscernible). The excitement of watching Aztec student athletes led by some of the greatest coaches in community college sports. The creation of our own cyber warfare range, the new IT instruction facilities, (indiscernible) and now the construction of our centers of excellence and so much more. I must acknowledge a few of the folks who were so helpful to me along the way, including Board Member Sylvia Lee, who was really my rock in those early days. Former adult education administrator Regina Suitt, who sat in the audience back when we had audiences, and stared at me when any vote concerning adult ed came up. People like Dolores Duran-Cerda, Ian Roark, Jeff Thies, Bruce Moses, Nic Richmond, Dave Bea, Irene Robles Lopez, Jim Monaco, Bill Ward, current chair, Demion Clinco, outstanding faculty members such as Matej Boguszak, whose name I can finally pronounce now that I'm going out the door, Ana Jimenez, Ken Vorndran, and of course Angie Weston, Gabby A, and Andrea in the chancellor's office. I know I left out a bunch of people, including my wife Linda, who I dragged to lots of events with me, and would listen to me complain about a bunch of things. But sincere thanks to everyone. Let me finish by talking about the future. The highlights I mentioned before, I left out the best of the best. Watching and shaking hands with thousands of students of all ages, genders, ethnicities, abilities, backgrounds, goals and dreams who walked across the stage at the Tucson Convention Center or the GED graduation facilities. This college was founded over 50 years ago to provide every member of our community with the chance to change their and their families' lives through higher education. Our college is in the process of creating a new strategic plan and mission statement that will take us into the exciting future of the fourth Industrial Revolution. I beseech my fellow board members and our chancellor who will lead this college forward to never lose sight of something I hold dear above all else, the most important focus of our institution is our students, including those who are prospective students. We must continue to offer affordable, broad-based, educational opportunities not only centered on corporate workplace needs but in all areas of knowledge. Most importantly, these opportunities must be available to all who seek them in a clearly stated mission that includes the words "Pima Community College is an open admissions institution." I will be in the audience staring at you as you decide this issue. I'm really proud of my service to Pima Community College, and I'm so grateful for the opportunity that I have had. I think I made a difference. I just want to thank you also for the crystal pieces. Let me show you this piece. The beautiful flower arrangement, you can see it over my shoulder. And the lifetime membership in the ACCT. And I also want to congratulate Ms. Cat Ripley, who I know will fill the responsibilities of this seat with the same dedication and values that I have. Thanks. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you, Mr. Hanna. In a normal circumstance we would present you with the recognition, both the ACCT lifetime membership, which was supported by the Foundation, and sort of the small gifts to acknowledge your time on the board. I want to say personally, since joining this board, I have been overwhelmingly impressed and often shamed by your commitment to this institution, your attendance at every possible event, your commitment to supporting students in all of their different endeavors, whether it was our theatrical productions or athletics, whether it was graduation, or whether it was just stopping to support somebody who looked like they needed a hand. Your commitment to this school and to our community is unparalleled. To give six years to step forward in a time of turbulence because you saw that there was a need and to give so unconditionally of yourself and of your time is a remarkable gift. The small thank yous that we were able to convey do not even begin to reflect the debt that this community in totality owes you for stepping forward to ensure that this institution is not just here now but is here in 30 years and another 50 years and a hundred years continuing to serve the students of Pima County. You know, I always think when I was small about whenever we'd go camping my parents would say leave the campsite better than you found it. I have taken that philosophy with me throughout life. I can say that you have left this institution better than when you found it. You have overseen and supported and fretted and monitored and been committed to extraordinary transformational change. This board and this college says thank you. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Hear! Hear! >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: You will be missed. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: And I want to just give my fellow board members an opportunity to also say a few words. Six years is a long term for any elected position, particularly one like this that doesn't compensate you, and requires such a lot of time and thoughtfulness. I just want to give everyone an opportunity to wish Mark well. Ms. Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Well, Mark, have a happy life. Stay healthy. And thank you so much for serving on the board. You know, I really appreciate all your efforts, so my sincere wishes. May God keep you safe. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Garcia. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Mr. Gonzales? >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: And likewise. I wish Mr. Hanna the best. It's been a pleasure serving with you the last two years, and I know that your dedication and commitment was there for all students as we intend to be, as well. I do want to wish you the very, very best. May God bless you too. Thank you. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thank you. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Mark, you know, you were board chair when I came on, and you have ever since been my guiding light for commitment to service of the college and the community. I can't thank you enough for your integrity, thoughtfulness, and wisdom on the board. You always, always put students first and you always reminded us that that's the first job always. You're a remarkable man and a remarkable citizen and I thank you for your service. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thank you, Dr. Hay. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Mark, make no mistake about it, we are not through with you yet. We will find ways for you to continue to give back to Pima (smiling). We look forward to seeing you at other events. You're always welcome and we look forward to hearing your input on the decisions that are coming forward. Thank you. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Yeah, remember that mission statement, all right? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: We hear you. Thank you, Mark. Moving on to our administrative reports. The first item, we have 40 minutes set aside for this item, first is athletics re-entry update with Bruce Moses, vice chancellor for educational services and institutional integrity. >> DR. BRUCE MOSES: Chair Clinco, fellow board members, Chancellor, colleagues and friends, just to give you a simple update, we are embarking on the ability to be able to bring some of our student athletes back to campus to participate in workouts and training. So we have outlined athletic re-entry plan that we have shared with the chancellor. This plan has been developed in collaboration with the athletic department personnel and environmental health and safety and facilities. They have met multiple times. They have brought forth a plan that covers pretty much everything you can think of. It covers the proper PPE, contact tracing, proper disinfectant and cleaning of athletic equipment and facilities. We are very fortunate as an institution that we have two people in our institution, our head trainer, April Jesse, who serves as the president of the Arizona Community College Athletic Training Association, so they have done a lot of work to pull together protocols for all community colleges in Arizona. And then also Chris Murphy, another one of our athletic trainers, who serves on the NJCAA Council For Student Athlete Welfare and Safety. They have brought a lot of knowledge and a lot of best practices forth and put together in these plans, we have three plans -- well, we have actually more than that. We have plans that for access to weight room and workout facilities, equipment. We have a plan for access to gyms, classrooms, administration offices, those types of things. And then also plans for our fields, soccer, baseball, softball, et cetera. So we have shared all that information. We wanted to let you know that other institutions have already started to do this and bring students back. I attended a CEO and athletic director meeting on the 29th on behalf of the chancellor, and Arizona Western, Eastern Arizona, Yavapai already have student athletes who are participating in workouts and practices at their facilities. All the CEOs and athletic directors have committed to having sports in the spring semester at this meeting, and most will be bringing student athletes within the next couple of weeks or at the beginning of spring semester. I wanted to thank a host of people. I can't thank them all individually by name, but facilities mostly, environmental health and safety, athletic department, our chancellor, and everyone else who took the time, Dr. David Dor�, to look over these things, do walk-throughs, we developed a series of videos demonstrating to students how they would navigate and come back, re-entry into our facilities. We will be doing this on a pilot basis where we are not going to have all teams or all athletes coming in at the same time. There will never be more than two teams on campus at any time, and is they would never be in the same facility at any time. So our athletic director as well is serving on the transportation committee. There will be no transportation happening this semester. Transportation would not happen until sometime in the spring when we would have to basically travel to another facility or another school to participate. So those things will not take place more than likely to early February. That's really all I have right now. I share one more thing. All of our protocols meet or exceed CDC regulations. All of our disinfectants and cleaners and everything that we use at the institution currently, we don't have to buy anything special, have always met or exceeded the CDC recommendations. And I'll answer any questions if you guys have any questions for me. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions for Dr. Moses? Okay. So I would just ask, Dr. Moses, if we do have cases that develop, what is the implementation plan in terms of testing and then putting a halt on the program? Is that part of the plan? >> DR. BRUCE MOSES: Yes. We have guidelines for that. For example, if we had a golfer, let's say, tested positive, we have about, I don't know exact number, 15 to 18 golfers, so you're talking it about a sport that's very isolated, we will definitely isolate that individual, quarantine them for 14 days. But let's just say five individuals on the basketball team, you know, contracted COVID or someone tested positive, then we have a totally different scenario. Then we'd be looking at basically pulling those, all those individual student athletes out, make sure they got properly tested, quarantined, and that's a lot of individuals on one sports team compared to the total, totality of the makeup of the team. So we will play it case-by-case basis. We looked into the chancellor providing us a bubble like the NBA, but he said we couldn't afford that, but we have all of those protocols in place. And we have some outstanding subject matter experts in this area in our organization, as I mentioned earlier, and we put a lot of trust and faith in those individuals to guide us and be able to do all the right things, including our student athletes. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: I think if we can continue the reporting model where we sort of get a week, if the board can get a weekly update on the protocols, I think that would be helpful. >> DR. BRUCE MOSES: I would say thank you, Mr. Hanna. I know the athletic department thanks you too. You are a mainstay at a lot of sporting events. I'm sure we'll continue to see you there. Thank you, sir, for your service. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Now I'm going to take a little latitude. The public comment and call to the audience actually was agendized a few items down. I'm going to move it up, because I know we do have some individuals and I don't want them to spend the entire evening with us. I will just say the Pima Community College Governing Board welcomes public comment on issues within the jurisdiction of the college. Generally the total time for public comment will be limited to 45 minutes, and comments will be limited to 3 minutes per individual. These time limits may be modified by the board or board chair. Individuals sharing comments are expected to communicate with decorum and respect. Individuals who engage in disorderly conduct or use divisive or insulting language may have their time reduced or concluded by the board chair. At the conclusion of public comment, individual board members may respond to criticism made by those who addressed the board, may ask staff to review a matter, or ask that a matter be put on a future agenda. Members of the board, however, may not discuss or take legal action on matters raised during the public comment unless matters are properly noticed for discussion and legal action. Finally, be advised that internal college processes are available to students and employees for communication. The first individual is Amber Smith, CEO of the Tucson Chamber. Welcome, Ms. Smith. >> I don't actually see Ms. Smith as an attendee. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: We will look into that. I think we have Bryan Hannley. >> I don't see him in the list either. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Chancellor Lambert is reaching out to one of them now, looks like. Next we have Shannon O. >> There is a Sharon. >> Yes. Can you hear me? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Welcome. We can hear you. >> Yes, I was I spoke at the October 7 meeting about rules and regulations and not being able to get hold of anyone. The meeting started at 5:30. I spoke not long after that. By 5:51 Mr. Lambert had already contacted me. By 6:14 he had contacted Provost Dolores Duran-Cerda and David Dor�. By 6:22 I had already been contacted, and by 7:15 by Dr. Dor�. So between 5:30 and 7:15 I was inundated by help. I mean, this is just absolutely phenomenal. I did speak with Irene Robles-Lopez, responded to various people, but the two people who helped me out the most was Steven Higginbotham. He talked to me on the phone for about a half an hour, discussed the whole setup of the arts department, which I was floored and did not realize that there was a computer division that took care of computer games and graphics. I did not realize that the whole art complex down there at the theater, music and dance, all under his art department, I had no idea. I did have one little problem trying to get my project (indiscernible) sewing class out. I was having a hard time. He did facilitate that, and yes I got my dress done. Then I spoke to Amanda Evans. I was interested in the nine-credit classes. She told me the whole thing has been shut down because it was not financially feasible anymore with City Parks and Rec and Pima County Parks and Rec and et cetera. I was disappointed, because those are the places I taught Spanish and (indiscernible) arts. And I told her I had taught a Spanish class through them. She said that there might be a component in some of the corporate meetings for that Spanish teaching (indiscernible). That was a good connection. I also want to compliment the college on the proposition passing. That's always good. I will probably be taking class in January. I try to take one every semester if I can. Ardent supporter. I don't believe in taking from the community without giving back. This is why I want to give my thanks. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Well, thank you for following up. We are always glad to hear that when someone brings an issue up we are able to respond quickly. Thank you very, very much. Thank you to leadership for moving quickly. I think it speaks if you have an issue and you haven't been able to get it resolved through the normal channels, coming to call to the audience is always a tool to help get it solved. It sounds like we do have Ms. Smith on the phone. The last four digits of her telephone number are 8811. Are we able to add her? >> Yes, she's with us now. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Welcome, Amber. >> Thank you, Chair Clinco. I'm Amber Smith. I'm wearing two different hats tonight. One is I do serve on the Pima Community College Foundation Board, but in my capacity speaking tonight, I'm speaking as the president and CEO of the Tucson Metro Chamber. What I want to do is congratulate the college on the success last night of the proposition. The chamber and our members were huge supporters, because we have actively been working with the college over the last several years on workforce development efforts. We know from the business community that workforce development is one of the largest concerns in building that pipeline, and we are so proud that the college will be able to reach even higher for the stars in their success of building the centers of excellence and fulfilling the vision that the chancellor has, which we have significantly seen positive steps towards in terms of job creation, economic development. So we want the college to know that the chamber is on your side. We look forward to working actively with the board as well as the chancellor on achieving all of the goals and missions and really bringing the business community together with the college even closer than we already have. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. I know the college looks forward to our continued partnership on these initiatives, and thank you for your service to the Foundation Board, as well. We really appreciate your commitment and your advocacy for the causes and the policies and the bills and funding that we desperately need to keep this institution focused on student success and good outcomes for the community. So thank you. Next we have Bryan Hannley. >> Yes, thank you. I'm hoping I come in clearly. I'm at my son's baseball game where I'm a coach. I'm stepping away, because this is so important for us to recognize and discuss the Proposition 481. So happy to follow Amber Smith, and she's on my board. Does an incredible job for our community. Chair Clinco, board members, Chancellor Lambert, guests, I'm Bryan Hannley, and I serve as the chair of Pima Foundation's board of directors. Yesterday was a historic day for the Pima County and the college. Voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 481 to allow the basic expenditure limitation to be increased to allow PCC to better serve students, employers, and the community. Again, I was flat-out amazed by the turnout and the overwhelming majority, and it just shows how voters feel about Pima and how important it is to our community, to workforce development, to economic development. I firmly believe this resounding approval of the college would not have been possible without the leadership of someone I truly admire as Chancellor Lambert. When he arrived in 2013, he boarded a sinking ship. It was the Titanic and we all know it. But through his leadership during the past seven years he has repaired relationships, renovated spaces, and instilled confidence in the institution across the community. His vision and the team he's assembled to implement change are putting Pima Community College on the map, not just locally but regionally, nationally, and I believe internationally. I'm proud that the Foundation Board supported the initiative financially. I'm equally proud of the voters in Pima County who recognize the importance of PCC for Southern Arizona. Our entire board of directors stands alongside the college ready, willing, able to support fundraising efforts that bring deserving students to our classrooms, reward outstanding faculty for innovative teaching, build high tech facilities, focus on the future and sustain academic and certificate programs that lead to meaningful careers. To the Board of Governors, thank you for your leadership. You recognize a clear vision for the future of our county and that begins with Pima Community College. Again, I can't stop thanking you enough for your leadership and your vision. Congratulations to everyone involved on the passing of 481. I look forward to accomplishing great things for our community together, and again, it's my pleasure and my distinct privilege to be the chairman of the Pima Community College Foundation Board for the next two years. Thank you very much. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. Thank you for your service to this institution and to the Foundation. Without members of the community who step forward to take on that important role, it would make our job that much more difficult, and we wouldn't be able to serve the magnitude of students who have needs in the community that we're able to provide additional educational services to. Thank you so much for your work and for your advocacy in getting us across the finish line. Have a good time at your sports game. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you. Finally we have Matej Boguszak. I just want to take a moment to remind everybody that if you're going to register for a call to the audience, please do it before noon. Information has to go out to everybody, so it makes it a little more complicated. Please remember just to register before noon. Matej? Are you there? >> MATEJ BOGUSZAK: Yeah, thanks for the reminder. My bad. That was me who registered a little late. Good evening, Chair Clinco, board members, Chancellor, colleagues and guests, everybody. I'm Matej Boguszak. I teach math and serve as president of PCCEA. You will hear no pleas from me tonight. I wanted to sincerely thank Mark Hanna. This is not an easy job. It pays nothing, as somebody pointed out. But our community needs dedicated, selfless people like you, with a passion for education, to set the direction for our ship and provide leadership and oversight. Mark, you have always come thoroughly prepared and asked some of the best questions that went straight to the heart of the matter. You made sure that students were always the No. 1 priority. You always listened to everyone and tried to make sure your decisions and votes were well-founded and informed. Your moral character always came through when it came to standing up to justice and that has not gone unnoticed. I loved your last words, advocacy for a comprehensive college, open admissions, and of course students, including prospective ones. On behalf of PCCEA and Pima faculty, thank you so much for your years of service. We would also like to congratulate Cat Ripley, who will be taking up Mark's baton. Please know how much the faculty appreciate having an incoming board member of your caliber. Thank you for deciding to serve again to make this community a better place. We truly look forward to working with you on the board. It was exciting to have a contested race that brought attention to our college, and I'm proud of how both campaigns have run it and heartened at the civility and depth of the forums. It was refreshing to see. We were fortunate to have another candidate who is a dedicated educator in Ethan Orr, and we thank you for your candidacy too and your care for our college and obviously the entire community. Finally, thank you so much to all of you who were involved in helping get Prop 481 passed. Sounds like there are many of you here. Clearly it was a big effort by a lot of people, has gone into it, and it paid off. PCCEA worked with the Arizona Education Association to spread the word locally, as well. And as the chancellor said, the overwhelming vote in support is a testament to the confidence our community has in us. So let's make them proud. Have a great rest of the semester, everybody. See you back here in January if not before, and we look forward to the budget development process over the next few months. Have a good night. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. The next item on our agenda, we will return to the administrative reports. Re-entry protocols by Dr. Dor�, president of campuses and vice chancellor for student experiences and workforce. >> DR. DOR�: Thank you, and good evening, Board Chair Clinco, members of the governing board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues, students, guests. I'm pleased to let you know that the re-entry at our campuses and centers continues to be managed very well with strict protocol compliance in place, and students, faculty, and staff continue to be very cooperative and compliant with the social distancing and wearing of personal protective equipment. Most importantly I'm happy to report that there have been no COVID cases resulting from attendance at a Pima campus or center. As always, I want to acknowledge the campus leadership, employee health and safety, and the program administrators, faculty, and staff, for their teamwork and collaboration on reporting potential issues and with contact tracing. Of course thanks to all of our students for their continued cooperation and flexibility. I did want to point out, you know, as Dr. Moses was presenting, you know, all of the protocols that we have in place for the programs will be applied to the athletic program as well and all the contact tracing, that's all been worked out. I want to give you a little bit of update about some of the entry at the campuses. We have been holding campus-wide virtual meetings at each of the campuses and they have been a wonderful way for campus communities to connect with one another. At our Downtown Campus, since our last board meeting, the adult basic education team began offering in-person appointments for students who are not able to complete the virtual intake process for ABE classes on their own. At these appointments, the staff assist the students in completing the registration process and submitting an online form so they can borrow a laptop from the college to study virtually. Also at the Downtown Campus, our testing center has been offering in-person exams, primarily for certification exams and GED testing. Based on the volume of exams and the student feedback, the center is now, we are operating on Saturdays and we are looking to expand to evenings as well. And at West Campus, the library has expanded its hours of service around curbside pickups, and the IT staff continue their work checking out devices to those in need as well as providing critical IT support to our students as well. Then at Desert Vista Campus, we are all set up and ready to provide appointments for students to sign up for a Wi-Fi computer work station to come into the campus. Now, we delayed the launch of this pilot as a result of COVID uptakes in Arizona, and so we will be hopefully kind of re-examining that and offering that service fairly soon. Desert Vista is also coordinating with the Aztec Resource Center to bag food items for distribution to students in need, and we are scheduled to distribute the food bags on November 19th, and I want to thank all those at the college who have signed up to volunteer to help. All of our volunteers have gone through training from the food bank to certify them in the handling of food. Northwest Campus, the science division faculty and lab staff, they have been very busy doing video recordings of experiments for the science courses to enhance the virtual instruction occurring in sciences, and the campus is hosting some partners to tape science experiments and activities as part of our partnership with the Arizona STEM Adventure, which we will actually be hosting virtually this year. At East Campus, they hosted the first sculpture on campus opening in four years, and they added eight new works to the already very impressive collection that they have at the campus. This year's collection included the piece from a, PCC art student, that's the first ever for that program. I want to thank Mike Stack and Steven Higginbotham who put together an awesome virtual event with video narratives from each artist and of course PCCTV who always shine. They once again put together an incredible program. Finally, at our 29th Street Center, we have now welcomed our U.S. Air Force paramedic cohort back to the center as well as we are doing contract work with the Tucson Fire Department in addition to our open enrollment programs. We will continue to work closely with the provost as we plan for the spring semester. This concludes my report, and I'm happy to answer any questions. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions for Dr. Dor� about the re-entry? No. Okay. Great work. I am so glad to hear we haven't had a single case. I think that really speaks volumes to ensuring the health and safety of everyone comes first as a priority. I hope we can continue that tradition, especially now as we move into an uptick and maybe see a second wave. I think we need to remain vigilant and as conscientious as possible. Thank you very much, everybody. We know it's a lot of work. >> DR. DOR�: Thank you to everyone. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Next we have health and wellness with Denise Morrison. >> All right. Well, thank you all so much. I'm really excited to present to you and share with you all of the wonderful programs that we offer in our wellness department. You know, Pima has some wonderful benefits, very generous benefits that are offered to our employees. But I love our wellness program the best, because it offers tools for the employees and it feeds their mind, their body, and their spirits. So this year we have had about 600 employees participate in the different activities that we offer. Most of those employees will earn the full $500 in wellness credits that can be used to either offset their medical premiums or be deposited into their has accounts. I'm going to share my screen with you here so that we can highlight a few of the (indiscernible) that we have had in the department this year. Can you all see that? What we did when COVID-19 started and we went to a remote work environment, within a couple of business days we were able to successfully transition the wellness program to fully online activities. We do have a U of A intern who has launched a COVID-19 mental health calendar, so we are providing mental health awareness services through the wellness program to our employees. Most notably we did have Deborah Carr from our EAP program at Jorgensen/Brooks host some sessions with employees to attend to kind of, so they could come out and share some of the issues that they have been experiencing during this time. She's also very mellow person, and she's very well in touch with some of the mental health issues that have arisen from COVID-19. Employees really feel like they can connect with her. So as a result, we are going to start offering monthly sessions with her so that employees can participate. We also have our first-ever wellness book club that's remote. We are getting ready to pick the next book. That will start up again in February. We did manage to pull off flu shots at four campuses, and were able to vaccinate over 300 employees. Special shoutout to Latva (phonetic) in facilities for providing much-needed assistance in getting the facilities ready. Everyone prepped. Emery W, our benefits manager, worked diligently to make this happen with Blue Cross Blue Shield and El Rio Health Center. I was really excited we were able to pull this off. This was not something I wanted to say no to it when approached, because it's a great service for the employees, and then that also meant that 300-plus employees didn't have to make appointments at Walgreens, CVS, wait 20 minutes to get their flu shots. We also offer virtual healthy cooking demos. We were also a 2019 Platinum Award winner for the Healthy Arizona Workplace and a 2020 Silver Award winner for the American Heart Association. Coming up we do have some workshops for self-care and loneliness. We have ergonomics at home and virtual yoga, which is consistently attended by generally about 30 employees per week. What we have done with this program is that we have really committed ourselves to making it inclusive for employees. We want employees to participate in the program. We want them to earn the credits. We don't want people to feel as though participation is difficult, that it's cumbersome for them. So we welcome suggestions from the employees as to how to improve the offerings that we do have. We also have a wellness committee, a group of employees here at the college who get together on a regular basis and discuss the program, how can we improve the program? What are the participation rates? So this is one of those programs that we have that will continually evolve at the college. We are looking to bring in -- we are bringing in financial wellness seminars, and we are also looking to bring inform some green education as well, educating the employees on how to be better stewards of the environment. That's really all I have. Any questions? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions? Okay. Thank you very much. I would just say to all of our employees, we really do recognize how difficult this period of time is. You know there are ups and downs and there have been emotional hurdles that's been politically taxing, emotionally taxing, I know for some individuals it's been financially taxing. Reach out and take advantage of the programs that we have here. If you are under stress, if you feel you're having issues, contact your supervisors, contact HR, and take advantage of the programs. This institution is committed to the wellness of everyone. We know that this is a trying time. Don't hesitate and don't feel uncomfortable about reaching out. I think everybody needs extra support during this time. The fact that we have these resources is incredible, a lot of people don't. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Next we have our enrollment management update with David Arellano, dean of enrollment management. >> DAVID ARELLANO: Thank you. Good evening, Chairperson of the Board, board members, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests. I'll be providing a short update on spring admissions and enrollment. First I want to take a look at our spring applications compared to last spring. So we are down 9% from last year during the same admissions period. Essentially equates to 241 applications less. With that, I have also included our residency classifications for our spring applications which reflect the majority of students being classified in-state. Again, this just shows the improvements we made back in April with the new application are working for our students. I also wanted to share the area of interest where students are intending to earn a degree, digging a little bit deeper into our spring '21 applicant pool. You can see here health programs, business, and computer and IT-related programs have the most interest this spring from our students in terms of selecting that area of interest, selecting those programs and certificates, and moving forward with completing those. We also continue to provide enrollment in academic advising services virtually. Students and staff feedback have been overwhelmingly positive on what we have been able to do during that virtual transition and continuing with that. It's very early in our enrollment period, so we don't have all the data and it's trickling in. Our spring registration period did open November 2, and so we are starting to work with students. With that, our virtual callbacks since the spring schedule has been made available we have been working with students, so we have over 1700 student interactions just through the callback service. This doesn't account for telephone services we offer 24/7, e-mail support, things like that. We have been really interacting a lot with our spring applicants. Then we continue to do our outreach, so we have our weekly enrollment advising campaigns that we do with every new applicant, which is based on division or program of study, which I kind of highlighted in the previous slide. We continue to have our engagement with first year experience students. Last week we had our new student welcome, really engaging those students, and then continuing our social media collaborations with the marketing and recruitment department, our student affairs and enrollment advisors. With that I will open up to any questions or comments you may have. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: David? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Mr. Hanna? In my comments, I listed the things I thought during my tenure here had just changed immensely, and I left out student services. When I first came on the board, there were definitely some issues. The change in how we deliver student services, how they affect our students, and how much that has improved, especially over the last few years, directly responsible for Dr. Lopez Robles and Dr. Desjardin and David. I want to thank the three of you, your whole team, everybody involved in what's happened there. Just the simple thing of you showing that slide of the much smaller percentage of out-of-state students warms my heart, all right, because you know it was one of my issues. I very much appreciate what you folks have completed. So thank you. >> DAVID ARELLANO: We definitely thank your kind words and recognition of all the staff and student affairs working hard for our students. And I also want to say I thank and appreciate all that you have done as a board member, and even as a community member prior to you being on the board. We appreciate you pushing us, making us look into things, research things, because it all just leads to the betterment of our students and the services that we provide to them. So thank you from all of us in student affairs. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Ms. Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: So, David, I still have some concerns about student recruitment. And I understand, I guess with the information you have given, you guys have been doing advertisement, work with the counselors from the different schools for the dual enrollment, but there is actually no contact from the college, and correct me in I'm wrong, there is no contact from Pima Community College to the students themselves? It's through the counselors, correct? >> DAVID ARELLANO: There is actually quite a bit of contact. So there is contact through our recruitment team. Those are for like new applicants. Once a student applies, then we have about 15 enrollment advisors that work directly with the students. We are reaching out to them weekly to walk them through that enrollment funnel process. So that's what steps do you need to take, activating your MyPima account, nudging and urging them to apply for financial aid, placements, new student orientation, things like that, through that enrollment funnel. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: But they have to apply and show an interest? It's not like you guys are going out there and actually being present and recruiting them? They have to apply to you guys? Is that correct? >> DAVID ARELLANO: Yeah, for those particular students, the enrollment advisors are working with, they do have to apply. But there has been a lot of virtual events so we don't have a lot of feet on campus right now just due to the school closures. We partnered recently in the summer with the Pima County superintendent's office to do some virtual events. We will be continuing those throughout the fall and winter months to recruit students for the spring, but those are being conducted virtually. Once I think things start opening up in the K12 arena that will change, as long as health and safety are considered as well. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Okay. Thank you. I really believe that the only way that we can increase enrollment is to start at the younger age, at the middle schools, and also to have a presence on the campuses, not wait for them to come to us but rather for us to show them what's available at Pima. >> DAVID ARELLANO: Right. We definitely believe it's full spectrum and we are all itching for that human interaction at every level. That's where we do our best work is when we are interacting with our students. Appreciate it. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Thank you. >> DAVID ARELLANO: Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any other questions? Okay, terrific. Our next presentation is our enrollment forecast with Nic Richmond, vice chancellor for strategy, analytics, and human resource, analytics research. Dr. Richmond? >> DR. RICHMOND: Chair Clinco, members of the board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests. It's my pleasure to be here this evening to share a brief update with the board and the other attendees at the meeting on enrollment forecasts, what the college can anticipate in the coming years. I'm going to share my screen. As we go into this, I want to stress that the scenarios I'm going to share with you are based on enrollment. Enrollment is a duplicated count of students across each class they are registered in. It's not exactly the same as FTSE, but there is a direct relationship between enrollment and FTSE. FTSE is based on the credit hours associated with the different classes. Now, we continue to be in the situation where there are a number of unknowns that will be impacting our enrollment. Some of them are listed here. It continues to be unclear how long the pandemic is going to last, though as we progress further, as vaccines are developed and tested, we start to get a little bit of a sense of this more than we had six months ago. There is also a question about public acceptance of a vaccine. There is research that's been done that indicates a lot of people may not be willing to take a vaccine, and then there is a question that even once we are through this, how quickly will people return to educational activities? We know that there is a significant impact on a lot of different people in many different ways regarding this pandemic. So there is a question of how long will it take for people to feel comfortable returning to regular activities? We also need to keep in mind a couple different things. While the pandemic is currently the primary driver of the enrollment changes that we are seeing, there are other factors that are at work. There was a recent discussion about demographics and the changes that we anticipate over time. We need to keep those changes in mind as we plan for the future. Likewise, we are not just kind of passengers in this experience. There are things that are under our control that we can do to try to improve our enrollment. Some examples actually just came up in the previous discussion, but also as the centers for excellence come online and we expand capacity in high-demand areas, that will have a positive impact on our enrollment. Before we look at the forecast, something else I'd like to share with the board. In the spring we administered a number of student surveys. In a couple of cases we had longitudinal surveys where we gathered input every few weeks from our students. We are carrying out a similar survey this semester as well. We are carrying out some other surveys as well with a real focus on trying to understand the student experience so we can pivot and can adjust to try and be responsive and be sure we are doing the absolute best we can to meet the needs of our students. With that, let me share the three scenarios. We're approaching this with these scenarios at the moment because of the unknowns, so we are thinking in terms of kind of what's possible in terms of what we may see happened. But I should note we may start off with one path, but based on actions the college takes or if something happens more quickly than we anticipate with, for example, a vaccine, we can switch from scenario to scenario. So these are estimates. They are ideas. They are things that we are thinking around to frame how we approach the situation, but we know the reality is liable to be something different from this, and we may change from one to another over time. Within scenario 1, this is shown with a blue line here. In this one, the impact of the pandemic is ongoing and we continue to experience enrollment declines. This could flow from individuals losing their job, ongoing financial concerns and other life issues that are going to continue to impact many of the students that we serve. From last fall to this fall, we have experienced approximately a 15% drop in enrollment. The line shown here has a 5% drop fall to fall. We anticipate the (indiscernible) drop in enrollment that we are likely to encounter with the pandemic, so we don't think we will see 15% again, but it is possible that we will continue to see a drop in enrollment for the next couple of years. Then within this scenario, this is followed by a slow enrollment recovery. This is a situation where gradually confidence is developed, people return to classes, people are able to take steps to return to work and gradually return to normal activity, but it's a slow recovery from this so that it takes time. In the second scenario, we've adjusted to the pandemic. People have kind of grown used to our new normal, and we don't see any drops, don't see increases either, but enrollment stays relatively flat for a few years. After that we see that slow recovery period that I discussed in terms of the first scenario. Then the last option that we are considering at the moment is again flat initially. Most of the information available that's discussed in the national news and elsewhere is that while it's possible a vaccine will be available early next year, it's going to take time to deploy that at (indiscernible), and so we anticipate that we will be living with some effects of this pandemic still a year from now, and it's reported it could be into 2022 that we get through much of this. But following this initial flat period, we see more rapid enrollment recovery. This is where some of Pima's own efforts can play a part if we become more effective with our recruitment efforts. As the centers open and we can expand capacity in those areas that we know are in demand that lead to well-paying jobs for our students, that's going to enable us to increase capacity. Of course, the longer we are in this situation, the better we are going to adjust, the stronger our offerings will be in this virtual setting and so we will be able to respond more quickly. I realize I am presenting saying, well, at any moment it's either going to go down, stay the same, or it's going to go up. It's kind of covering all the bases, right? And I realize that. Unfortunately because of the volume of unknowns right now, we really don't know across these scenarios. So we are planning so we are ready for whichever of these may occur, and as I mentioned earlier, we are monitoring trends, gathering student input so we can each be as responsible as we can so we can work towards ensuring that the outcome for the college is scenario 3 where we are flat followed by an increase. With that, I would be happy to take any questions. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions from members of the board? Okay. Thank you very much. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Demion? Well, I lost my contacts so I didn't see a couple of the screens that Nic showed. So I will have to go back and I will be sending questions later on. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: I think that's perfectly fine. You can send them to the chancellor's office, he can forward them to Dr. Richmond and she can get them. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. Next we have our human resource advisory committee update. >> Good evening, board, Chancellor, Chair Clinco, colleagues and guests. I am Jeffrey Lanuez. Tonight I present a very brief overview of the important work that the Pima Community College human resources board advisory committee accomplished in the past year. In our committee charter, we've stated that this overview will be presented to the board annually, and beginning in 2021 this overview is scheduled to move to be presented at the end of each fiscal year. For anyone interested, information on this board can be found on the Pima.edu website under the board's page. The committee wants to thank our two board sponsors, outgoing Board Member Hanna and Board Member Gonzales. Board Member Hanna, a special thank you for your support for this committee and your commitment to our employees. I'd also like to thank the community and PCC members of the committee who serve as valuable resources to the college and provide their insights. The members are Paul B, Anna M, Helena Rodrigues, my counterpart at the U of A, as well as our own Jeff Silvyn and Dave Bea. Along with our human resources department, this committee took on some very large projects since our last update. These major committee topics included updating our committee charter, taking on the college's policy rewrite project of the employee handbook, and all associated employee policies, a total revamp of the college's compliance training and the current compensation classification study. As we are all aware, that COVID-19 created unique challenges for our employees and institution while also ushering in projects that were already on our plate but were instantly reprioritized as urgent due to the needs of working from home and the urgency of safety on and off our campuses, meaning the re-entry back into the workplaces. Much conversation and recommendations were provided at this committee level with a heavy emphasis on communication and safety of employees and keeping them fully employed. We are proud to say that our institution has thus far weathered this pandemic with no layoffs or furloughs. This commitment to keeping all of our employees working does not come easy. The last major initiative I will review tonight is the discussions the HR board advisory committee had around upskilling and reskilling employees. In order to not only transition to a remote work environment for instruction, which I know you have heard about the college's great work with the faculty, what the faculty does, it takes much work by the college and staff themselves to make this work for the institution. During the summer, HR has developed all new tools and programs to specifically engage employees at any level to make them productive in a remote environment, and now the focus is on readying them with our 21st Century skills to meet the demands of a vastly new world of work. This committee provides a lot of valuable insight and recommendations to the HR department and communicates with the board. I look forward to presenting you information on the exciting work we are doing on employee development at another opportunity, and thank you for the time this evening to give you this quick update about the HR board advisory group. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you so much. Are there any questions from the board members? Mr. Hanna? >> MR. MARK HANNA: I'd just like to mention that this committee was a direct result of recommendations from the HLC and from another outside group that audited our college at sort of the beginning of my term. I'm really proud that this committee is continuing to function and has been productive and another example of how this college took those sanctions that were leveled by the HLC, took them seriously, put much work into improving our college, and we are a better college because of it. Despite the fact that this was a terrifying time for the college when it happened, we are a much better college today than we were then. Thank you to Jeffrey and all the community members who serve on that committee and to my fellow board member, Mr. Gonzales. >> Thank you, Mr. Hanna. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any other questions, comments? Hearing none, moving on to the budget update with David Bea, executive vice chancellor for finance and administration. >> DR. DAVID BEA: Good afternoon, good evening, Chairperson Clinco, members of the board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests. I'm going to take a few minutes today to update the board on the monthly financial information that was provided to the board which is the year to date through September, walk through a few of the things that we talked about in October but also point out how they are starting to show up in our monthly financials and then avail myself to any questions the board may have. So if you look at it, you can start to see that we are starting to show the results of some of the COVID/pandemic effects are showing up in our annual financial or monthly financial reports. Most notably if you look at the year-over-year performance in our tuition and fees revenue, it's down somewhere near $5 million. We talked about this in October. That's principally due to the decline in enrollment plus the elimination of student payment plan fees and the elimination of charging tuition for the students, STU student success courses, so these are initiatives that we decided as an institution and the board was involved in making the decisions to reduce the burden on students to help them choose the college and come to the college and take classes here. That's the biggest difference between the two years. Moving down though there are a couple of other things that are one-time effects that are sticking out a little bit. First in investment income. You'll notice that our investment income is a negative number. It's negative $2.5 million compared to negative $900,000 last year. That's something that occur at the beginning of the year as we book some real live gains or losses and then as the year goes by and we get returns on our investments because most of our investments are fixed income, those negative results will disappear and we're not expecting to have and we have talked with the board about we are expecting to have decline year over year in terms of our investment performance, but it's not that significant at this point. It's more in the neighborhood of like $500,000 by year end. The next thing that would stick out is there is very little gain on capital asset disposal. Last year we had booked a little over $2 million so there is a difference between the two years of about $2 million. That is the recognizing some of the gains we had from selling Community Campus. That was a one-time effect that helped last year's financials that we won't see this year. So overall we've discussed and we had our eyes on what the big revenue changes are. There aren't any big things that we haven't seen or discussed already. Those will be folded into the budget projections, and then talking about what David Arellano and Nic Richmond mentioned, doing some of the enrollment projections as we go into the budget development cycle. On the expenditure side, there are a couple of changes. They're pretty minor in effect but will become bigger. One is that our instructional expenses are down a little bit. That's due to adjunct faculty costs going down because we are being more efficient with our scheduling and how many courses we are offering, so that was an initiative we talked about and one of the strategies with the budget. That should realize a savings of about a million dollars in the fall semester and probably about the same in the spring. That's really good news. And then the other thing on the expenditure side is we start to see there are significant increases in operations, plant operations, operations and maintenance to plant. That's going to continue to happen because that's where the construction-related expenses will show up, and so that will be bigger expenses versus prior year because the construction expenses will be starting to come in fast and furious as you have seen the transportation building coming up and then some of the other projects, aviation, architectural projects for the other facility at Downtown Campus. Those are the main changes year over year, and we will continue to monitor and we will continue to have that conversation with the board. I will pause there and actually take a moment and you might be able to see this sign I got to wake up this morning with my great news, and confirmation that Prop 481 passed. Thank you to the board for deciding to take the initiative and take a chance on going out to the voters and thank you to Pima County voters. This is going to be an enormous impact to this institution where we can turn around and reinvest in the services that we will make, will make education more relevant and more timely and more impactful to all of our community. It's exciting. It is overwhelming to see how much support we received from the community. I'm grateful for all the support that we had there. With that, I will pause and ask if the board has any questions for me on the financial matters. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions for Dr. Bea? Okay. >> MR. MARK HANNA: This is my last meeting. I have to get all my questions in. Dr. Bea, the elimination of the tuition for STU courses and the fees for of extended payments on tuition, I assume we set a limit for that? Was it this semester? Through the end of the calendar, academic year? Which was it? >> DR. DAVID BEA: Tuition-free STU program is through the end of the year, so it's through spring semester, and we will be talking with the board specifically about that as the budget development goes and whether we want to continue that as a college. I think there is a great deal of support to do that, and we will have that conversation. The student payment plan, the elimination of the fee, also we are intending to continue that through this year. It's really both heavily related to the impact and implications of COVID and pandemic and trying to provide as much support to our students who are experiencing a great deal of economic and personal distress. We are doing what we can to help. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any other questions? >> MR. MARK HANNA: I would encourage the board going forward to consider keeping that elimination of tuition on the STU courses, and I think at some point we should be able to tell the impact that's had on students being able to take those classes, encouraging them to take those classes which help them do better as they move through their college career. I'd urge the board to think seriously about making that permanent. Thanks. >> DR. DAVID BEA: Board Member Hanna, thank you for being ever vigilant in your support for students. It's made a big difference. I appreciate everything you have done. So thank you, and we'll miss you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. I skipped over one of our presentations, and I apologize. We still have student enrollments and Irene Robles Lopez and Suzanne Desjardin. >> Thank you, Chairperson Clinco, board members, Chancellor Lamber, colleagues and guests. We'd like to take a moment to thank Mark Hanna for his years of service and his commitment to our students, our college, and community. You definitely will be missed, Mark, so on behalf of student affairs, thank you so much. At this point we would like to present an update on our student wellness assistance program, which provides mental health services and information for our students. I will now hand it over to Dr. Suzanne Desjardin, dean of students. >> Good evening, everyone, Chairperson Clinco, board members, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests. This is a death by PowerPoint slide. This has all the information about the student wellness assistance program and a snapshot for you. I'm not going to read each bullet, but I did want to highlight that one of the things we are very pleased, and you heard from Denise Morrison's presentation earlier tonight, is that we were able to use the same vendor that is providing the employee assistance program who also provides the student assistance program at the University of Arizona online. We were able to get into that contract last year. You all remember you authorized that. It began last July, and it has been such a blessing to our students, given the pandemic and everything that we have seen happen. We have some relief, we have a cushion that we know that students have 24/7 live TeleHealth access to credentialed licensed psychotherapists that they can receive up to six free sessions per issue per year of service, and the people they are receiving the services from are licensed in their state of practice. As you all know, because our students are living all over, especially students that we have serving in the military and they may be abroad, we will make sure through this service that they are connected to a licensed credential professional. That brings us to the different languages that are also available highlighted there, as well. English, Chinese, French, Hindi, Portuguese, Spanish. Another benefit, as we are all learning about TeleHealth in this age of the pandemic, students can get connected directly by phone, but they can also connect virtually, they can download an app, can go into their MyPima student account portal and can message or have a regular TeleHealth appointment. Within that portal, they also have a host, and we will see in just another moment in one of the upcoming slides, a host of material so that the stigma of counseling, and Chairperson Hanna certainly knows this with his background, the stigma of reaching out and asking for help and actually talking with a counselor can sometimes be very difficult. What we have really seen is a large increase, in fact, a 45% increase from this time last year into use of the direct clinical counseling services and within the portal itself. So a lot of students are going in there. They are not only looking at podcasts, webinars, articles on mental health. There is a lot of other things that are in there that's very holistic. Things like childcare resources, elder care resources, legal advice, financial advice, it's just lots and lots of information. So we are very pleased that we have been able to provide the service to our students. We wanted to give you a snapshot that kind of gives you a sense of what's been happening this calendar year. So as we have talked about, we have seen an absolute increase since the pandemic occurred in March. If you wanted to get a sense of, again, taking a look at what are the clinical cases, that's the psychotherapy I just mentioned, how many of students are receiving one-on-one help for those, what are things that are more worklife type of issues, and then what is the total number of web hits within the portal. That's a quick overview but gives you an idea of what kind of usage that we are seeing. And then in the following slide we've got some additional information for you that again is more of a snapshot of chronologically what did we see when we first rolled out the program last year, July to December. For example, you could see back then we had 58 students from July to December that were connected for clinical and/or worklife, whereas this year it's 95 students between those two categories. That might not sound like a lot when you look at the total student population, but what we have found and even our own counseling team will attest to this is often students don't necessarily want the in-depth psychotherapy. They may just want to talk to someone or take those steps towards asking for help through a lot of the self-help materials, as I mentioned. So for trends, the kinds of trends we have seen reported, that's for you here, I think everyone can relate that stress and anxiety are certainly on the rise. Panic, low mood or depressive symptoms. Difficulty with concentration. Helplessness. Workplace or stress issues, performance issues. Those have been some of the trends. Again, the website portal visits comparatively, if we were looking at this year so far versus last, first six months of the program, we are definitely going to be increasing, I believe we will exceed the portal log-ins. A great update we just had through our awesome web services team, they created a link in the faculty teach tab in the MyPima portal so that faculty can now make those referrals directly. If a student asks to talk with them privately before class, after class, et cetera, we have had some psychology faculty reach out, social services faculty reach out, for obvious reason those are often where students go when they want to talk to someone who they know has a background. All of our faculty and instructors have been those lifelines for students. Faculty can now show them exactly where to find the resource in the MyPima portal. Then I would be remiss if I did not highlight the excellent work that our current counseling team continues to do around mental health. So that last column is just giving you some highlights from things that happened this semester from the counseling team. They held live virtual events that are recorded and posted to all of our social media for suicide awareness, live depression screening, partnership with the honors program around domestic violence and reaching out for help. We have just seen that team really step up to the plate to assist our students, as well. Last, I would also be remiss if I did not personally thank Mark Hanna for keeping everyone reminded about students being the center of all the work that we all do and the importance of counseling, advising, student affairs. Thank you for being a champion for us and an advocate for our students always. With that, if there are any questions, I will stop sharing. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any questions from the board? Okay. Hearing none, thank you very much for the presentation. We appreciate the work you're doing for the students in this difficult time. Next we have our reports by representatives of the board. Our first is our student report with Sage F M. Sage, are you there? >> I was just added. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: That's okay. Thank you for being here. >> So for November 2020, virtual adult education, last month during the National Adult Education Literacy Week, several adult education ambassadors shared their stories with Arizona senators on how adult education has changed their lives. Governor Doug Ducey was presented with the adult education leadership award for his support for our program over the past few years. At the city level, two ambassadors and recent GED graduates met with Tucson Mayor Regina Romero, sharing their personal stories and concerns for the future. These graduates will start taking PCC classes this semester. Virtual Student Life, we had the JADE 2020 program. Students will build on their leadership skills and have meaningful dialogue on leadership, social justice and empowerment. JADE stands for Justice, Advocacy, Dialogue, and Empowerment. These topics are interspersed throughout the program. Topics include race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, socioeconomic status, religion, spirituality, intersections of identities, and systems of power and privilege. It is for students who have foundational leadership skills. Prior completion of emerging leaders is strongly recommended. You will develop a group project to address change and foster discussion and action at PCC in Tucson and other communities. 2020 JADE program is offered virtually through Zoom, Discord, and other platforms Tuesday evenings from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM. Program structure is as follows. Zoom program with all participants. November 2 through 8, race, power and privilege, Speakout Institute. November 10 and 17, movie viewing and discussion via Discord. November 18 through 30 the students will work on small groups on a social change project. December 1 is the gallery walk and small presentations via Zoom. Virtual first year experience hosted today, Popcorn With a Program features social services known as the flavor of the month and introduces students to their programs' trifecta of subject matter experts from advising. PCC and transfer universities, instruction and Student Life clubs. Finally, for the student senate, the Pima Aztec Student Senate hosted a virtual voter education forum that is now available for viewing on the Pima Student Life YouTube channel, faculty members Dr. Amy Cramer and Eric S. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Next we have our faculty adjunct report with Sean Mendoza. >> He's not with us. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Next is staff report with Michael Lopez. >> Hello. Chairman Clinco, Chancellor Lambert, Governing Board members, colleagues and guests. First of all, I want to say hello to everyone and hope everyone is doing well. I want to congratulate everyone at Pima that was responsible for the Proposition 481 passing. I know it took a lot of work, and I wanted to really recognize the voters. It seemed like everyone that asked me, it was as soon as I said, well, it's going to help Pima, they jumped on it, you know, and I know there is a lot of people that were pulling for Pima. I appreciated the report earlier about the next few years, possible outcomes. I was wondering there is will the students still be coming from the same types of populations, or what may we be looking at differently there. I want to welcome Cat Ripley to the board, and also, before I end the report, I want to thank Mr. Hanna for everything that you've done, the way that you have been a part of Pima, always wanting to be there for the students, showed yourself at every event and activity possible. You always gave your service and commitment to the best interest of the college and the community and to Pima Community College. Thank you very much. That ends my report. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much, Mr. Lopez. Next we have our faculty report with Brooke Anderson. >> BROOKE ANDERSON: Good evening. Chairman Clinco, board members, valued guests. Faculty Senate held its October meeting on October 2nd. At this meeting, Faculty Senate president, Josie Milliken, reminded senators that faculty can encourage students to vote. She shared an example statement for faculty to post in their D2L announcements, on their home pages, as well, as Pima's voting information page. I'm sure we are all anxiously awaiting the national results of the election, and we are thrilled that Pima had some big wins this round. As far as our personal senate elections, we welcome Brandy Randolph. He was elected to serve as the ACC rep, and we also welcome Denise Reilly who will serve as secretary. The provost and executive vice chancellor, Dolores Duran-Cerda, president and executive vice chancellor, Dr. Dor�, and executive vice chancellor for finance and administration, David Bea, presented on the chancellor's goals. Senate president, Josie Milliken, presented an on-time registration update. She shared that most faculty and administrators think the college should consider suspending on-time registration, and faculty senate officers and administrators would be meeting to further investigate the possibility. Since then, the group has met once, and will be meeting again soon later this month. The leadership team for instructional transformation has been meeting with focus groups that include faculty to collect stakeholder input on topics related to components of instructional work that need to be included in Pima structure to appropriately support learners. After completion of each of the focus group rounds the team will be sharing summary documents, and they will be soliciting additional feedback. On October 21, Faculty Senate officers met with administration and discussed important agenda items like re-evaluating on-time registration, the cross-discipline collaborations that will be happening through the TLC, the Faculty Senate student panel happening this Friday, November 6, which senators are really looking forward to, and the Faculty Senate systemic justice committee's work with syllabi statements. Faculty Senate executive officers also met with Dean Greg Wilson on October 22 to gain a stronger sense of applied technology's courses, programs, and certifications. Our next meeting is this Friday, November 6. I do have several faculty I'd like to recognize for their notable accomplishments tonight. Writing faculty member Alejandra Ramirez has co-published a chapter titled Smile Now, Cry Later, navigating structures of inequality in academia through resistance, resilience, and humor in our women of color writing group. It's part of the edited collection, Amplified Voices Intersecting Identities, volume 1. In addition, Alejandra signed a book contract with Rutledge on a collection titled Transnational Feminist Arts Praxis and Pedagogies for Decolonization. Critical engagements with art and activism for series Rutledge's research in decolonizing education. The TLC, like I mentioned, continues to organize and host professional development events including an exciting one upcoming that is temporarily titled Cross-disciplinary Connections and Conversations. This event series will allow for disciplines across the college to share information about their areas so faculty can gain a stronger sense of the college community and of the pathways of our students. Additionally, the TLC have shared the sabbatical committee's video, how to apply for a sabbatical, with faculty. Finally we have a nice list from Faculty Senate president Josie Milliken on the kinds of faculty-driven equity work currently taking place at the college. Like I mentioned before, the Faculty Senate systemic justice action committee has been meeting consistently throughout the fall and is analyzing curriculum and teaching related obstacles to equity and inclusion at the college. Some of these obstacles concern assessment practices, course content, learning outcomes, and delivery methods. The committee's most current project is a reexamination of syllabi. In the coming months, the committee will provide example syllabus statements for faculty use and will offer a TLC workshop on the art of inclusive and equitable syllabi creation. Many faculty are switching to contract grading, because it is a more equitable grading method. Faculty are also working with external organizations to mentor diverse students in fields, areas where underrepresentation is a concern. The writing department is collaborating with programs in departments across Pima Community College to develop a liberatory writing across the curriculum program. This group's mission is to support and empower student writers in all disciplines through liberatory right to learn curriculum and justice-oriented writing assessments in pedagogy. Josie Milliken, in a related area, is developing a PimaOnline seminar focusing on equity and open education. The math department, their DFC is developing co-requisite classes to improve success rates for underprepared students entering the college. Librarians have been making services more accessible, and are adapting to the needs of all of our students while also diversifying the library collection. In addition, librarians are partnering with faculty to reach out to students early on in courses if their participation has decreased or diminished. Writing and ESL faculty work together to develop writing 101 SE for students who have completed ESL. This course is specifically tailored to the needs for students for whom English is a second language and will be offered fall 2021. Finally, all faculty are continuing to dedicate themselves and work hard to adapt new technology and new virtual learning environments to meet student needs. I want to continue thanking the Governing Board and administration for prioritizing the health and safety of Pima employees and students and for continuing to support employee social justice and equity work. I'm sure many of my employees still would like to express the same sentiment. And finally, to end tonight on behalf of all faculty, I want to extend my thanks to Mark Hanna for his unwavering dedication and service to this college. You have been a positive and warm hearted leader at this institution that many of us admire. And I want to congratulate and welcome Cat Ripley to the board. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. We appreciate all the reports. I don't believe we have Craig, Jim Craig on the phone, but we do have a written report from him in the board report. Next we have our chancellor report. Chancellor Lambert? >> DR. LEE LAMBERT: Thank you. Good evening, everybody. First and foremost, we did it. We should all feel very, very proud of what we have accomplished leading up to last night's, over 70% support from the community for Prop 481. Mark, I remember when you first started. I don't know if you knew this, but you're the first board member that I have been chancellor where it was a full six years together. Sylvia was already on the board before I was hired. So you're the first to, that we did that together. Also, Mark, I don't know if you remember, just as you were coming on board, we had just learned that we're getting our funding zeroed out by the State of Arizona. We were close to losing our ability to certify veterans' benefits. And while you were here, we were close to losing our ability to continue to educate and train aviation students. And the list goes on. I bring all that up, because it's so important for folks never to forget that we just not too long ago we were in dire straits. It seems like a lifetime ago for some, especially for new folks who didn't live through all of that, and I want to make sure that we never return back to that. So I want you to know, Mark, you have my commitment to open admissions. I have always been committed to open admissions. It's one of the main reasons I work in community colleges. The college, as long as I am here, we will stay committed to open admissions. Also, I just want to thank you for your tremendous support. We would not have made it through those tough times without yourself and the other board members who helped really shape and define a vision, that we weren't just focused on cleaning up problems, but we were truly focused on the future. It's easy to get caught up in what's right in front of you, dealing with all these problems, and not knowing where you're going. But we did both, and I think thanks to you, Mark, we have illustrated that we have been able to take things to a whole new level. We have created a culture of openness. We have created a culture where innovation can thrive. We have created a culture where people can speak their mind. There was a time where people were afraid to speak their mind. Now people are free to speak their mind. We don't always have to free, but at least people know their perspectives are appreciated. I also want to add, and I can say this now, because I got contacted tonight with the official word that Pima Community College has five, five programs, that have been selected as Bellwether finalists. That is unprecedented, folks. We may be lucky to get two, maybe three, but five? Selected for Bellwether. That would not happen without great board members like yourself, Mark. Supporting the vision, supporting, creating a culture that allows for innovation to occur. We would not be where we are today. And for those of you not familiar, we won the Bellwether award last year. Well, we were nominated last year, but we received it this year. Same thing will happen as we go into next year, January, when the Futures Assembly convenes. So we are hoping that we will come back with at least one if not more Bellwether awards. This time, unlike last time we were chosen for two categories, this year we were chosen for all three categories. Our programs, PimaOnline, chosen for the planning and governance category. Our paramedic and HBOG (phonetic) programs for the workforce program area. Then on the instructional side, we have IBEST and our prior learning assessment have been chosen. So we are doing innovative work at Pima. Pima is not just on the map. We are helping to shape what the map is going to look like. Mark, please be proud of, you have contributed to making that happen. So thank you. As I say to all of us, you know, we are one Pima, one team, and we are one family. I think when we stay focused to that, we accomplish these great things that we are now seeing, whether it's a Prop 481, whether it's these Aspen recognitions, whether it's the Bellwether recognitions, it happens because we are all moving in the same direction. Also, I just want to note for the public, I mean, and I made phone calls last night and this morning to thank a lot of the folks that Demion, you made reference to earlier, but there are some folks who don't get recognized very often, and it's folks that are often behind the scenes who don't -- and I notice some folks in the Pima All this morning, but here are some folks I didn't note in the Pima All. A lot of them come out of Lisa's team. I want to thank Paul Schwalbach. Paul is able to take the thoughts and the perspectives and really frame them into some great talking points. So thank you, Paul. Also Libby. Libby Howell doesn't get recognized much. She helped to set up a number of the meetings that former Mayor Jonathan Rothschild and I spoke at, whether it was first thing in the morning before 8:00 or after 5:00, presenting to a number of groups throughout our community. Libby was part of making that happen. Another person that also goes unnoticed is Gabby. Gabby is the one that has to move my schedule around when things get set last minute. They want you to come talk here, Lee. Can you make it happen, Gabby? And she finds a way to move things around. I know it's unsettling at times, but she gets it done. I just want to recognize those folks for what they do to contribute to the success of the college. Also want to say to the community at large, we made a commitment under 481 to invest, strengthen, expand our academic transfer areas, our workforce development areas, our adult education areas, our developmental education areas, strengthen student supports, look at bringing back childcare and parent education. We are going to take all that and create a dashboard, and then we will be able to show how these investments line up with these different pieces that we had been communicating to the community that by supporting us we are going to support back into these areas that are going to help ultimately our students and our community. So we will start to help shape that and these become really strategic focal points as well. Also I want to say congratulations to Cat. I look forward to working with you. I really appreciate your enthusiasm, and thank you for taking my call last night. Also, I just want to recognize Ethan Orr. He's been a tremendous supporter of the college, ever since I arrived here at Pima County. He was in the legislature, as you all know. We had a delicate issue happening at that time, and Ethan really stepped up for Pima to really help us blunt some bad effects of our legislation if it would have went through. Thank you, Ethan. We will look forward to continue partnering with you and your role at the University of Arizona. I want to say in response to something Michael shared in his report, so if you think about the number of individuals in our county who need access to education, keep in mind, and you have heard me say this many times, especially the employees, there are as many working adults who have some college or no degree or who have no degree at all as there are the number of complete students in the total preK system. Remember, every year we are graduating out of our high schools somewhere probably around 8500 maximum 10,000 students. So you have 140, 150, 160,000 folks over here and you have about 10,000 folks graduating every year. Remember, of those 10,000 folks, only about half of them go to college. So where's our opportunity space? It's not that we ignore the K12 piece, but we've got to continue to do more to attract that working adult. The other thing we talked about and Ian highlights this a lot, many students are coming to us after being out of high school about 10 years, the lost generation. We have to figure out a way to shorten that time horizon where they finally figure out they need to come and get skilled and reskilled and recareered. So we will be working on that. That's where our opportunities lie, Michael and everybody, is in there. It's not one versus the other. It's how we do all of that and do it better. I think we're on our way to absolutely doing that. And then for those of you who are not familiar with contract grading, fortunately I went to a college who did that with its students, so I had firsthand student experience with contract grading, and when I was an employee at that college I also did contract grading for students. I'm so proud to hear from Brooke and from our faculty that we are doing this. It really will make a difference. It's a contract with the student about the level of work they will be putting in and by putting in that work, doing it at a certain level of quality, that they know this is the grade they can count on. So it's a different way of grading. I think it's a great way of grading, and it really starts to allow us to personalize the learning to that individual. And really help see their growth and development over time. So I'm just so proud of our faculty for bringing that innovation and hopefully we can do more as we go over time. With that, again, just think -- let me close with one last thing. Pima Community College is at the forefront of helping the State of Arizona with its reskilling and recovery plan. We are one of the community colleges sitting with the governor's office, sitting with the Arizona Commerce Authority, sitting with our workforce system, sitting with Achieve60AZ, and working to develop a comprehensive reskilling and recovery plan in which Pima is a prominent player in that effort. Then when you bring that closer to home, Pima is leading the planning for the recovery and response plan under the direction of Sun Corridor for our community. So I'm so proud that, and so, Mark, just know, thanks to your guidance and your commitment, this college is in the best place it has ever been probably in decades. So thank you so much for what you have done for Pima and I look forward to staying in touch as we go through the horizon here. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much, Chancellor Lambert. Next we have our information items. Item No. 3. Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the information items, please. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. The information items that were previously submitted for review by the board include the September 2020 financial statements, employment information listing one hire, one retirement, and several separations. Adjunct faculty hiring, a list of several individuals who have been certified to teach at Pima Community College. Finally, the fiscal year 2021 through 2022 budget development calendar. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: We have next our consent agenda. If you could read that. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Thank you. The items on the consent agenda for this evening are the minutes of the October 6, 2020, all these dates in 2020, executive session. Minutes from the October 6 special meeting. Minutes from the September 21 study session. Minutes from October 7 executive session. Minutes from October 7 regular meeting. We have one candidate for faculty emeritus status, Roger D. Irwin. There are program inactivations. Those are two program currently clock hour certificates that are being discontinued. We have an agreement with Chicanos Por La Causa for it to provide student case management and program participant support services related to Department of Labor grant that the college has at the Downtown Campus. Total value of that, period of that agreement goes through July 14, 2023, not expected to exceed $402,880. Also have intergovernmental agreement with the Wichita State University campus of applied science and technology which relates to the licensing of logistics and supply chain management curriculum in exchange for payment from Wichita State. We have an intergovernmental agreement with Cochise County Community College to allow Pima Community College to provide certain career and technical and education programs at the Arizona State Prison complex located in Douglas, because Cochise Community College is no longer going to be providing those services. We have an intergovernmental agreement with the Arizona Department of Corrections Rehabilitation and Re-Entry to provide the services I just referred to, specifically automotive and construction career and technical education at the Douglas state prison complex through June 30, 2023, at the currently published rates of community college up to $251,349 per year. There is a dual enrollment agreement with the Abbie School. Also a dual enrollment agreement with Ombudsman Educational Services, a company that runs two charter schools, Hikei (phonetic) Charter High School and Ombudsman Charter Valencia. Amendments to dual enrollment agreements with Flowing Wells Unified School District for courses at Flowing Wells High School, Sunnyside Unified School District for additional courses at Desert View High School, and with the charter schools run by Tucson Youth Development, specifically Ace Charter and Youth Works Charter. We also have a proposed amendment to an agreement with TeamDynamix Solutions, an information technology service management company that provides a suite of services for Pima Community College IT functions. The total value of the contract, it's potentially a six-year agreement. This amendment would extend the agreement through June 30, 2024. The extension is for $78,693, which would bring the total value of the contract through 2024 to $360,377. There is also a proposed agreement with CampusLogic, Inc., provides a suite of software solutions used for financial aid and scholarship services at Pima College. This agreement would extend from December 1, 2020, through June 30, 2023. Total costs are not expected to exceed $681,303. There is also a request for authority to execute up to two one additional renewal options for the contract. If we did that and the contract went for the entire potential period through June 30, 2025, the total expenses would not exceed $1,277,701. Proposed contract with SD Crane Builders for elevator modernization services at the West Campus. Primarily building C. Total costs for the agreement are not expected to exceed $399,074. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: So moved. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Second? >> MR. MARK HANNA: Second. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. (Ayes.) >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Anyone opposed? Okay. Hearing none, the motion passes unanimously. Next we have our proposed annual calendar regular board meetings. Mr. Silvyn, could you read the recommendations, please? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Thank you. The chancellor recommends that the Governing Board approve the proposed annual calendar of regular board meetings for 2021 and January 2022, the specific calendar and dates is included with the board materials. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Do I have a motion to approve the recommendation? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: So moved. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Is there a second? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Second. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Any discussion? Hearing none, Mr. Silvyn, could you do a roll call vote, please? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Certainly. Mr. Clinco? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Dr. Hay? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Mr. Hanna? >> MR. MARK HANNA: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Ms. Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Mr. Gonzales? >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: Yes. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: The motion passes unanimously. Next we have action item 5.2, West Campus Allied Health Center of Excellence, planning update and direction on location options. Mr. Silvyn, can you begin by reading the recommendation? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Thank you. The chancellor recommends the Governing Board authorize the chancellor or designee to proceed with the planning and design of the allied health center of excellence at the West Campus and provide direction to the college between option No. 1, which is a new building design, or option No. 2, a renovation of existing facilities. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Is there a motion to approve? We are going to modify. What if we begin by making a general motion to approve the recommendation and then we will modify it to reflect the direction of the A or B? How does that sound? Mr. Silvyn? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: As the board pleases. Or you could have the presentation, someone could make a motion in favor of option 1 or option 2, that could happen now, or as you have suggested, any of those would be appropriate paths forward. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Do I have a motion to approve the recommendation? Then we will make an amendment to the direction. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: So moved. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Second. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Discussion. Chancellor Lambert? >> DR. LEE LAMBERT: Good evening, everybody. I'm so pleased that we could finally bring to you a clear option to move forward with an Allied Health facility. As you recall, as we were going into this year, we had presented some options to the board. The board was leaning towards going down the path of building new, had directed us to begin looking at building that into the budget, and then the pandemic hit. So we never got completely through that process side of that. We are now very pleased to bring forward what we believe is the way forward and we are hoping that the board will support the recommendation. With that, I'm going to turn it over to Bill to take you through some of the details. I believe David and Yolanda is also here. Yolanda would be able to share some enrollment pieces that were asked at the study session and the like. Bill? >> BILL WARD: I'm ready. Chairman Clinco, members of the board, students, colleagues, guests, I'm very excited about bringing this project forward and also very excited, Mark, that you get to approve one more -- or hopefully you approve, one more big ticket item for the college. I'd like to start out by letting everyone know or reminding everyone that as part of our educational and facilities master plan that was approved in 2018, it was highly recommended that the college consolidate all of its operations related to the Allied Health programs at the West Campus. So just understand that that was a recommendation that was approved, and it's the way that we have been looking at things related to this proposed project. In February we presented or Dr. Bea presented three different funding options to the board related to the Allied Health center of excellence and we left that meeting with a strategy to fund the project out of our accumulated cash reserves of approximately 9 million per year for the next four years. This still allowed for the remaining healthy reserves for the college district. This was something that was highly looked at not just by us but Dr. Bea and his team and also Dolores and Dave were also part of this assessment. The plan was to build the costs into the fiscal year's budget. However, with COVID, like the chancellor said, with the COVID-19 we placed it on hold until we could reassess our options. As you guys remember, we had looked at developing a, the first recommendation, was to build a new building, and then we went back and reassessed things, and then came back with a recommendation to also remodel facilities. The West Campus center of excellence update was presented to the board, as you all may remember, Monday, October 26. Facilities developed in partnership with the provost, president of campuses and finance, we developed update on West Campus center of excellence, Allied Health, detailed the existent current conditions, the current renovation projects and process. As you remember, I talked also about the work that we were doing with the science labs, which were also going to tie to this facility, and also the portable building we are building up on the hill close to the A building. And so with that stated, option 1 was a stand-alone three-story new construction facility, about 75,000 square feet, and estimated project cost of $35,100,000. Option 2 is to renovate three existing buildings, building H, building J, and then the first floor of D. That will expand the classroom and lab space, about 49,000 square feet from 31,000 square feet what it is now, we actually would be expanding square footage that we have at this site because there are some areas that we are able to capture, and so we are looking at about 81,000 feet, expanding to 110,000 square feet, and estimated project cost of 23,500,000. Actually that cost includes all three of those facilities. The Governing Board requested additional information on timelines. That's something that should be a part of your packet, but I can go through that if you would like. Option 1, timeline which is for both options we have already started in a sense, our goal would be if the board approves this, our goal would be to have an architect or design team on the board by March and then with the completion date of 2023, at the end of 2023. Option 2, same process. We have already started. Our goal would also be to hire an architect to bring that on at the same time with a completion date of December 2023. The goal and the thing with that proposal is we would be doing three different facilities, and kind of in the same process that we followed when we did the, doing related to the centers of excellence at the Downtown Campus, we hire an architect and what they would do is literally design the whole project so that would be all three buildings but then we would bring them on at separate time frames so we would not cause any issues with the site. So that's what we propose. The West Campus would be comprehensive hub for a significant number of PCC programs, nursing, dental, other Allied Health programs. We did decide we are not going to be moving that tech that's a program, it will stay at the East Campus where it's located now, but all other medical programs would be recommended to move to the West Campus. And so with that, hopefully tonight's action we can begin this process of assessing an architect and moving things forward. Dave? >> DR. DOR�: I think you have set it out clear, Bill. And then Yolanda has some enrollment data, Board Member Garcia, that you were asking for, so she can present that as well as some of our completion data, and then looking at these options. Yolanda, you want to present some of that data? >> I sure would like to. I'm going to share my screen with you. I hope you can see that pretty clear. Chair member Clinco, Chancellor Lambert, board members, thank you for giving me the opportunity to come and speak with you guys tonight about this. What I did, and first I'd like to explain to you where I got the information from. I went to each one of the directors and department heads of the medical programs that will be combined under the center of excellence to get their enrollment capacity. Then we pulled an enrollment report from Banner which shows exactly how many students are enrolled in each one of the health courses that's currently enrolled for fall of 2020 and populated the data from those two areas. If you look at the report, currently each one of the programs have an average of about 89.6% enrollment based on their program capacity, and this is in the midst of COVID where we were faced with a lack of clinical space, the limited ability to bring students into our skills labs, and just so that you're aware, our skills labs are running from 7:00 in the morning until 7:00 at night, because we are making sure to keep the students safe as well as the community. We are bringing them in in smaller groups. This also shows this enrollment based off of a limited number of students that we are able to bring into simulation lab, and we have been using simulation to accommodate for the lack of clinical space. It's a little bit difficult to project the program capacity moving forward, or enrollment, like increase in enrollment, and one of the reasons I say that is because a lot of our health programs are accredited, and to increase program capacity, it's going to be based on the available clinical space. It's also going to be based on the number of faculty that we have, because our accredit ors dictate the faculty to student ratios. And then the number of skills labs that we have to be able to bring students in to do that hands-on skills. However, by increasing our classroom space and our classroom technology, it's going to allow our program to expand into outlying rural areas. That will be an opportunity for growth. It will open up the opportunity to place them in clinical sites that are in those rural settings that are in need of health care workers, as well, and some of those areas are in the rural areas of Pima County, in Santa Cruz County, in Nogales and Sells, into those areas. Also, I know, Board Member Garcia, you voiced some concern about opening up opportunities for students that might work. So opening up morning classes, afternoon classes, evening classes, we polled our students a couple of semesters ago and asked what would a good schedule look like for you, for those of you who are working and have family obligations? Would you prefer to come to morning, afternoon, evening classes, or would you prefer to have us capture you on campus less time? What we found was the majority of our students in our healthcare programs typically work in healthcare, and they are working 12-hour shifts. So what we did for the fall 2020 semester, is we were able to bring our students or capture our students, not necessarily bring them on campus, but capture them fewer days of the week, which allowed them to be able to continue to work and take care of their family obligations outside of the classroom and still allowed them enough time to be able to study and be successful in the program. I will tell you we are aware that these are very, very popular programs with the college but also, you know, being a faculty member and being close with the students, we are aware that these are life-changing programs for the students. I will tell you I, along with all the other staff members in these programs and faculty members in this program, we are 100% committed to running each of our cohorts 100% full. I say that from firsthand knowledge because I want to share with you, I'm a Pima graduate, from Pima's nursing program, worked while I went through Pima's nursing program, and was able to successfully complete the program and come back and then serve as a faculty member teaching here at Pima. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Yolanda, thank you for that presentation. Can you speak to looking forward, we know that healthcare is one of the largest areas of employment opportunities certainly for our county and certainly for the state. How is Pima College positioned in the marketplace going forward, especially with the establishment and the building of, I will get this wrong, is it Pima Medical Institute, whatever it is, how are we competing in the marketplace, and are we going to be able to capture with these new facilities an increased market share of those students who want this kind of training? >> Yes, Board Member Garcia, I definitely think so. I definitely think one of the areas, and here is a prime example of what we are facing, just within nursing alone, this last, our last application cycle, September 1 is one of the opportunities where students get a chance to apply and come into the program and these are students that will start spring of 2021, we had 460 applications for 120 spots, and so we turned away a significant number of qualified applicants. Unfortunately, and I hate to say this, it's heartbreaking from a faculty standpoint, because we know how bad these students want to get into healthcare and how hard they have worked to get into these programs, but because we didn't have the capacity to take more students at the time, we are actually directing those students over to Pima Medical Institute and those other institutions where the students are incurring a lot of debt to achieve their dreams. So moving -- and here is a prime opportunity for us. COVID opened up virtual teaching for us, which is something that we looked at for a while. Now we have been able to increase our classroom space. If we had the capacity to increase our labs, then we would be able to bring more students and filter them through those laboratories and not turn so many students away where they are getting into so much debt. And I will tell you firsthand a significant number of students come and speak with me, Yolanda, I have applied a number of times to get into the program, what can I do? Because for some populations of students, that's not an opportunity for them, and it would not have been an opportunity for myself if I had to pay the amount of money that I would have to pay to go to a proprietary school. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Thank you very much for that. I would actually suggest, Chancellor Lambert, in five to seven years we are going to need to expand this program even further because there is no question that the opportunities for jobs in the healthcare market are just going to keep increasing exponentially. >> DR. DOR�: Board Member Hay, this renovation will expand our physical capacity and our lab capacity. You know, I do want to be clear to what Dean Yolanda said, is we will need to increase faculty to expand, as well. But I do want to say that we are -- and I have visited the PMI new facility. We are in desperate need of new updated facilities. But in light of our new instructional model moving forward at our campuses, I think that renovating existing space is the most efficient use of our funds. And I think we can accomplish -- for those of you who have visited PMI, they have renovated an old school. >> BILL WARD: Exactly. And I would add, Board Member Hay, what President Dore said and Dean Yolanda said, also, too, when we looked at this design, whether it be the new building or the expansion of the campus, we looked at adding an additional 250 students. So that's what we based our assessments on is for the program to grow to 250. The other thing I think too that Yolanda touched on that we are actually exploring now, I talked with the chancellor a lot about it, is this virtual clinical space. Nobody has it. As that gets harder for students to get it, Pima has a great opportunity, as we continue, as you stated, to expand this program, because West Campus is a massive facility. So we have other opportunities to maybe get into some things related to this project that are not available right now in our community. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: I want to thank you for your presentation. It was very thorough, and it answered all my questions. >> You're very welcome. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Thank you. >> MR. MARK HANNA: I guess my question is how does the original plan, the separate building, compare in number of student capacity versus this remodel plan? >> BILL WARD: Well, when we look at the facility, Board Member Hanna, when we looked at developing a 75,000 square foot facility, so at the end of the day, you would, we would be adding more square footage to the college based on a new building, and so the second option is to remodel. The only issue that relates, for me a big issue related to option 1, would be if we build a new building, we move everybody there and we have all this space we just talked about that most likely will need to be remodeled or figure out an additional use. I think that's going to be a decision for you guys to make at the end of the day which is best, but it would add, the new building would add an additional 75,000 square feet to the campus in general. The other option is not going to have that much square footage. It will add half of that but not a full building. >> DR. DOR�: But I think overall, Board Member Hanna, we don't need -- the district does not need 75,000 additional square feet. What we need is an appropriate facility for our health programs. >> BILL WARD: Agreed. And to tack on to what President Dor� said, too, is please remember we are talking about the space that we have picked out, we are talking 50-year-old space, and so we would still have, we'd have a brand new building and still have to deal with a 50-year-old space. >> DR. DOR�: And our challenge at the district is not additional square footage. It's the right kind of spaces for our new learning models. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: I don't mean to belabor this, Chairman Clinco, I'm just curious on a couple of issues if I could ask two more questions? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Of course. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: So, Dean, are your applications in all those different fields, what's your area of most interest or the highest application rate? Is it in the certified nurses or registered nurses? Which of those programs is the most popular, if you would? >> It's the registered nursing program. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: If I understand correctly, Pima College is in the absolute best place to be to be training all the future registered nurses for the entire Southern Arizona. University of Arizona doesn't do that. They are dedicated to training the trainers, training the professors of nursing, not necessarily training the nurses in terms of capacity. And I think, Chancellor Lambert, we have to really make sure in the budget going forward we hire enough faculty to teach the registered nurses because you can't necessarily teach all this online. A lot of this has to be in person. You can't teach how to put an IV line in online. We have to make sure in the budget going forward because the one-time fixed cost is one thing, but increasing the faculty to make sure the dean has the faculty she needs to train these folks is going to be critical. I think we could own this space in Southern Arizona for training registered nurses. And we should. >> DR. LEE LAMBERT: Meredith, to your point, I think it goes back to what David was saying earlier too. Adding this space and the way we are planning to do it is balancing both sides of the house. We know that more and more of what we need to do is in these applied spaces, but do we have the appropriate applied spaces? Personally for nurse programs, programs like nursing, we can do it with the existing facilities by remodeling them. We could not do that for automotive, couldn't do that for machining. Just given the nature of those kinds of spaces and what was needed. So we had to build new. But in this case, we don't have to do that, and we can expand capacity. But your bigger point being our ability to track the faculty, that means we are going to have to be committed to differential salaries. Otherwise we will not be able to hang on to this level of talent, because nurses have lots of options, and they are going to make a lot more than what Pima currently pays. So if we're going to own this space, and I agree, I believe this is one of the spaces we can own, we've got to be willing to pay, and I think we can keep it affordable for the students at the same time. That allows us to outcompete PMI, the universities, et cetera. But that does mean there will be some things we are not going to be able to do in order to do this, so I just want to manage that expectation as well >> DR. DOR�: And Board Member Hay, just for your information, we built this model into the expansion of the Aviation Technology Center, we built into the model the expansion of the faculty, as well. And so we will build the same into the health professions, will build the model for expanding the faculty in addition to the actual facility. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: I would just remind everybody that Prop 481 was specifically around expanding the expenditure limitation for this very thing. This is part of the reason that this needed to be done. The cost of some of these programs exceeds the reimbursement -- I mean, that's part of the calculation problem we were running up against, just as a reminder to everybody on that, as well. Any additional comments from the board? Okay. So I would make an amendment -- actually, I do have one other comment. The building is 50 years old, architecturally significant, I want to make sure we bring in preservation specialists to work on this team and make sure that's actually part of the design team so that we're not negatively impacting the building. With that, I would recommend that we approve option 2, which is the renovation, which is a significant, over $10 million savings to new construction with that small addition of a specialist to look at the -- is that okay with the seconders? Who made the motion? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Yes. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Before we get to the question, we have a procedural -- the seconder was? Who was the seconder? Jeff? Do you have a record of that? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: The question -- I don't remember, who made the original motion? That would be the person who could accept -- >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: That was -- >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: I accepted, that was me. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Then you're fine from a procedural standpoint. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: So then we can continue the discussion. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: You mentioned a preservation person coming in. What would they be -- I guess I don't understand the need for that. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Yeah, so I will tell you my thoughts. The building is 50 years old, it's eligible for listing on the National Register. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Oh, my God. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: It's something we are pursuing, to make sure we don't negatively impact the building. I think it's important to have someone who brings in a little bit of expertise. It's included in the design team. >> BILL WARD: And we are, board members, we are planning on doing that as Chairman Clinco stated. I actually have a meeting with the State of Arizona historic preservation team, because remember, we reached our 50-year milestone with Pima Community College, which that is West Campus, and so we did submit it for its historical assessment, and I will be meeting with them with my architect I think in about a week or so. So we are actually going to let them know that the college is looking at doing this as part of the discussion with them, because they are the ones that will approve this or approve the historical assessment for the facility and move that forward. So, yes, definitely we will have -- and I think the reason Chair Clinco brings this up, because you remember we showed you the presentation which is attached to the packet, there is some issues related to the elevators in those two facilities, because they are, they have been grandfathered in all these years, but once we start working on them, we will have to upgrade them to today's standards. Then there are some areas to where there are some old store fronts, we are looking at replacing them and potentially moving them out. So we will have somebody on board as part of our team. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: I just want to state that I disagree to maintain the buildings at, for the preservation of them, okay? The reason I'm saying this I have been through Pima for many years, since it first opened, and I can tell you that the Pima College West is not what it used to be when it first opened. It's significantly different. If it's going to incur more cost to the program, then I disagree with that. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: I think it represents a cost savings of about $11 million because we are renovating. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: No, you're talking just about the renovation. I agree with you on that we should go with renovation. But to have to put it like what we have done with the Downtown Campus, I disagree with the preservation. >> BILL WARD: Yeah, this is -- >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Do what we need to do. >> BILL WARD: This is a different assessment in a sense, because, one, you know, the building is, just to give you a history about the building, the facility is Brutalism architecture, and if the West Campus, the main part which is what is being looked at, is 16 inches poured reinforced concrete. It's not like we are going to be able to tear anything up or doing anything like that. It's more related to like we said the store fronts and wherever we build the elevators. The majority of the work that's going to happen to the facility, it will not, this will not affect that. And I do agree with Chairman Clinco, because we are bringing it forward, but it's a totally different assessment, Board Member Garcia, than what we are looking at for the Downtown Campus. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Okay. Thank you. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. So with that, Mr. Silvyn, if you could do a roll call vote? >> MR. MARK HANNA: I have a question first. I just want to be clear on what we are voting on because I don't have that figure in front of me. This is the renovation both the East and west sections of West Campus with or without -- you had presented something with a sky box, going to acquire -- >> BILL WARD: We did show the opportunity to potentially build something like that, but that would be in the area where the new elevator would have to go. And so that's not something that has to happen. As you guys know, depending on what option you approve, the process will be we will bring in an architect and they will work with everybody pretty much on our team to start programming this facility and looking at what's going to be and how it's going to flow. So we have to provide things for you guys to be able to assess it and get an idea of it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that that's actually what it's going to look like. I just have to build something in place so I can give this institution a decent estimate. >> MR. MARK HANNA: So we are just giving a direction tonight? >> BILL WARD: Yes. Well, I would say what you would be doing is approving an option for me to go out or for the college to go out and under the chancellor's authority for me to go out and hire an architect to start the process. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thanks. >> DR. DOR�: Bill, to be clear, the board will approve each step along the way. >> BILL WARD: Oh, yes. So how it would work is you'll approve this process, it will go forward, we'll do a proposal to select architects for this project, depending on what delivery model we use for the building or the remodeling of this facility, and then once we bring in, actually once we decide who we would recommend that, would actually go to the board to approve, so you would have to approve the design team before they start working with us. And then as they go through that process, depending on like I said what delivery method the college uses, whether we do the same kind of hybrid model that we did at the Downtown Campus or we look at the (indiscernible) model to where you hire the architect and the contractor at the same time, but in other words, like Dave is saying, everything will go through the board for approval. So basically what you're doing, you're approving the project but you're approving the first phase, which would be design. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. Any other -- Mr. Gonzales? >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: Yes. In hearing the conversation, I really think that I like the idea in reference to doing the renovation because it's needed, and I like the presentation reference to the spaces. But what I have a little bit of concerns, now that you're mentioning the preservation aspect, coming to the preservation aspect, would that deter -- the construction to meet certain requirements, maintaining that or that's not going to be quick. We are just looking at the restoration for the facility, correct? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Mr. Gonzales, let me just ask what I'm asking for. I just want to make sure we are sensitive in how we approach the building and that we are not doing anything that would negatively impact this community asset that we are the stewards of. That's all. In order to do that, you bring in a design team and you have architects who can design towers that come out of buildings and they can build glass -- I just want to make sure whatever they are doing it follows national standards and that it is sensitive to the existing building. That's all. You have to be intentional about it or else it doesn't happen. I'm just saying for me, that's an important value that I think is part of our stewardship of this institution is just to make sure that we have some level of responsibility that, as we move forward, these things dovetail together thought fully. >> BILL WARD: Also, Board Member Gonzales, one thing to remember, too, is, and this is for everybody, the majority of the work will be within the facility, not outside. So just to understand that when you look at historic preservation, especially for the West Campus, it's based on the architecture, like I said, and -- I mean, it would be too expensive for us to start tearing down parts of that facility, especially the concrete. Like I said, and I totally support what Chair Clinco is stating related to it, because we would want somebody at least make sure that we weren't removing something that had some value to it. But I do not foresee any major issues related to that recommendation. >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: Okay. Like I mentioned, I do like the plan No. 2, which is renovation. Let me ask the question, who initiated this process in reference to the historic preservation? >> BILL WARD: I did. >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: Okay. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Ms. Garcia, did you say something? I just want to get clarification. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: No, I figured it was you, David, Chairman, that requested that. That's all. >> BILL WARD: No, I -- >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: If I could ask a question, Bill, Chairman Clinco, to Bill? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Yes, Dr. Hay. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Bill, if I understand it correctly, every time the University of Arizona renovates a building, take chemistry as an example, which has been under renovation for the last 20 years, I mean, we always take into account the historical context of when a building was built. And in the University of Arizona it was built hundred years ago, but you always want to make sure it doesn't get out of context of the original design of the building. This is pretty standard for state and county buildings is that you just make sure that it's consistent with the original intent of the architecture at the time. And sometimes it expands and I don't know the right architectural terms, speaks to the new design, but I think it's very consistent with state buildings and publicly owned buildings is that you always bring in some historical context to the original building to make sure there is some consistency across time. >> BILL WARD: Agreed. And then the other thing to let the board know too is when the college went through its last bond in the late '90s and when we went in and renovated all these facilities during that bond there was a lot of work that was done at the West Campus too. So as you walk up the back side of where the, the area closest to the gym and you go up, and you see that part, that was all redone as part of the bond. It's not like we haven't done this before to that facility. I've been here too long. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. Mr. Silvyn, do you want to call the roll call vote, please? >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Certainly. Mr. Clinco? >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Dr. Hay? >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Mr. Hanna? >> MR. MARK HANNA: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Ms. Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Yes. >> MR. JEFF SILVYN: Mr. Gonzales? >> MR. LUIS GONZALES: If it's for option 2, yes. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: The motion passes unanimously. >> BILL WARD: Mark, it's been a pleasure working with you. We met seven years ago, one thing I wanted to always say to you, is I have always put all my questions together because I knew you'd always have a lot of questions. I just wanted to, when I come to the board, I'm always prepared the best I can for you. I'm gonna miss you. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thanks, Bill. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. Next is a request for future agenda items. Okay. I just want to quickly -- Ms. Garcia? >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Sorry. I don't know if this is the right place to do it, but I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to request training or parliamentary procedures and board policies that pertain to the Robert Rules of Order. I'd like the training to be provided by an expert in parliamentary procedures, and I would like to exclude Jeff or Susan Segal from being part of that. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Okay. I think that ties nicely into just a reminder that on the 16th we have a study session with a number of outside experts, including the Higher Learning Commission liaison, the ACCT facilitator who we worked with in the past, Pam Fisher, who has led some of our retreats, and also an ombudsman to talk about various aspects of board responsibility. As long as there is no concerns, we are going to invite Cat Ripley to attend. That will begin to at least address that and then I think as part of that we can identify a series of steps in additional board training. I know, I just want to say, you know, COVID makes it difficult. Traditionally we would go to the ACCT conference, we would participate in different types of trainings, be able to bring in people to sit around the table. This is a slightly more complex situation because we are all just sitting in our living rooms in front of our computers. This is really the first effort to sort of do annual board training, also an opportunity to get our new board member some of that initial training, as well. And then I hope to work with everybody to help identify the plan of how we're going to create a more robust board training to deal with issues about parliamentary procedure that we can bring in additional experts and maybe have individual guidance, as well. Doesn't necessarily have to be in the group setting, can be if individuals want one-on-one training we can try and identify and arrange that in a variety of different areas. If that sounds okay, we already have the meeting scheduled for the 16th, but I just want to put that out there that's the intent of that meeting is to sort of start to do the very thing you're talking about. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Thank you. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: I would like to request that Mr. Hanna attend the call to audience next year and make sure he holds our feet to the fire. (Laughter.) >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: That sounds great. Mark, we'd love to have you back, especially at some of these upcoming ribbon cuttings for these projects that you've been so instrumental in shepherding and ensuring they get completed on time. It would not be the same without you there, to recognize your contributions. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Thanks. I plan on it. Thanks. >> MR. DEMION CLINCO: Thank you very much. With that, we are adjourned. Thank you. >> DR. MEREDITH HAY: Bye, Mark. We love you. >> MR. MARK HANNA: Bye. >> MS. MARIA GARCIA: Bye. 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