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         March 10, 2021 Governing Board...



         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Good evening, and welcome to the Pima

    Community College District March 10, 2021 regular Governing Board

    meeting via Zoom.  I'm going to call the meeting to order.  First

    item is the roll call.

         Mr. Silvyn?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Catherine Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Here.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Demion Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Here.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Maria Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Here.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Meredith Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Here.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Luis Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Here.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  All board members are present, Mr. Chair.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  The next item is our public comment and

    call to the audience.  We have a number of requests to speak this

    evening.  I'm going to just remind everyone the Pima Community

    College Governing Board welcomes public comment on issues within the

    jurisdiction of the college.  Generally the total time for public

    comment will be limited to 45 minutes, and comments will be limited

    to 3 minutes per individual.  These time limits may be modified by





    the board or board chair.

         Individuals sharing comments are expected to communicate with

    decorum and respect.  Individuals who engage in disorderly conduct or

    use divisive or insulting language may have their time reduced or

    concluded by the board chair.

         At the conclusion of public comment, individual board members may

    respond to criticism made by those who addressed the board, may ask

    staff to review a matter, or ask that a matter be put on a future

    agenda.  Members of the board, however, may not discuss or take legal

    action on matters raised during the public comment unless matters are

    properly noticed for discussion and legal action.

         Finally, be advised that internal college processes are available

    to students and employees for communication.

         Our first member of the audience this evening is Mary Esther

    Rosales.  Ms. Rosales?  Is Ms. Rosales here?

         Okay.  We can try to come back to Ms. Rosales a little later.

         Next is Matej Boguszak.  Matej?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Oh, wow.  What's going on?

         >> MATEJ BOGUSZAK:  Good evening, everyone.  Yes, I'm here.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Looks like we have a note from Mary

    Esther.

         >> I had to mute Mary because of the feedback there.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Matej, are you there?  We will start with

    you and move next to Ms. Rosales and Amy Feldman.

         >> MATEJ BOGUSZAK:  Hello, everybody.  Is that better?





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  What's going on?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Matej, we are going to move on to the next

    person.  Maybe we can go on to Mary Esther Rosales and try to come

    back to you at the end.  Ms. Rosales?

         >> I believe the feedback is coming from Mary Esther and not from

    Matej.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Let's move on to Amy Feldman.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  I think you can go back to Matej

    because Matej was not the problem.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Matej?

         >> MATEJ BOGUSZAK:  Thank you, everybody.  Good evening, Chair

    Clinco, Chancellor Lambert, board members, colleagues and guests.

    I'm Matej Boguszak.  I teach mathematics here at Pima, and I serve as

    president of PCCEA.

         I want to sincerely thank everybody for all the work and

    important discussions at the board meetings over the last couple of

    months, the regular and study sessions, in this highly volatile but

    hopeful year.

         Mr. Clinco, thank you for challenging us to be bold, in your

    words, and work harder to reach those students we have lost and have

    yet to reach or can better serve to turn this enrollment problem of

    ours around.

         Ms. Ripley, your steadfast focus on community needs has been

    clear and unmistakable from the start.  Thank you for emphasizing





    it's not just about the marketing but the product itself and

    investing in the employees who recruit and retain and support our

    students.

         Ms. Garcia, thank you for being so engaged and looking out for

    our students and asking many, many important questions for issues

    with the registration process, for example, to various college

    contracts.  That's what oversight is all about.

         Dr. Hay, you always keep us (indiscernible) and look out for

    threats and we really appreciate that.

         Mr. Gonzalez, you have been a vocal advocate for your

    constituents and our students and have suggested various ways that

    Pima can reach out for them.

         We are truly on the same team here, all of us, trying to pull our

    college and students through this difficult team, building a

    foundation for the future.  So also thank you, Chancellor Lambert,

    for being such a champion for Pima throughout our community and

    beyond.  To Dr. Richmond, Dr. Sovak, and the whole strategic plan

    being team for the great presentation and thoughtful work on our

    mission at the study session last month.

         Thank you, Dr. Bea, the finance staff, and the committee advising

    you on the use of federal funds, for all the careful planning in a

    budget year like no other.  There are too many people to name and

    thank here, but allocating our resources in line with our mission and

    values is one of the most important responsibilities we have.

         So as the 2021/'22 budget takes shape over the next couple of





    months, please remember the employees who have been asked to do more

    and work harder than ever before, haven't really received a raise in

    seven years, something that I believe has never happened in the

    history of Pima, and whose base pay has not been keeping up with

    inflation.

         Our K-12 colleagues have made some significant progress, our city

    workers are now paid at least $15 an hour, and I think it would

    really do wonders for employee morale, productivity, retention, and

    goodwill to acknowledge their long-term efforts with more than just

    words.

         The All Employee Representative Council continues its work to

    revise the personnel policies and we are starting the annual

    discussion of compensation this Friday.  We would really appreciate,

    as employee representatives groups, as well as the AERC, an

    opportunity to report back to the board in April on this topic and

    just the state of the Meet and Confer process overall.

         So thank you again very much for your time, for your service to

    the college, and don't hesitate to contact me if you have any

    questions.  Good evening.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Matej.

         Chancellor Lambert, I think that's a great idea to get an update

    on the Meet and Confer in April if that's possible, or upcoming

    meeting.

         Next let's hear from Amy Feldman.  While we are waiting for

    Ms. Feldman, Ms. Rosales, if you turn off any other streaming of the





    meeting on YouTube or any other open windows, that may be causing the

    feedback loop.  You should just have one window open.

         Ms. Feldman?  Is she here?

         >> She is.  Looks like she's muted.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Feldman, if you could unmute yourself.

    Okay.  We'll come back to Ms. Feldman.

         Next is Benny Gomez followed by Adilas Felix.

         Mr. Gomez?  Is Mr. Gomez with us?

         >> I do not see Mr. Gomez in the list of attendees.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Adilas Felix?

         >> Or Mr. Felix.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  How about Brad Campbell?

         >> He's listed and is now allowed to talk.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Mr. Campbell?  You're on.  Mr. Campbell?

         >> Hello.  This is Brad Campbell.  I was actually just typing in

    the chat.  Sorry.  The mute button just appears whenever you call on

    us, so maybe that is possibly why others were not able to unmute at

    that time.  That's a good feature.

         Anyway, I have communicated several times with the chancellor.  I

    actually just want to thank the board for coming to the conclusion

    today that we'd be able to initiate and start indoor athletics.

         I know this has been a very trying time and basically trying to

    find all the data that's out there and assimilate that into one

    specific document to be able to follow, so I really just want to

    applaud the efforts and make sure that everyone is aware of that fact





    that this is a very difficult process.  I mean, I work in this on a

    daily basis and deal with COVID from all directions as an ER

    physician.

         Again, I just want to applaud everyone on their efforts, and it

    is difficult and quite frustrating even for us on the outside to, I

    guess, for lack of better words -- I mean, I just get very frustrated

    with the following-the-science statement that typically gets thrown

    out there and is now the in-vogue verbiage for every conversation

    that takes place.

         Just happy you're able to move forward.  Really, that's all I

    have.  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much.  Next we have Stacia

    Ely?

         >> She is present.  Muted at the moment.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is she still with us?

         >> She is still there.  Just still muted.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Ely, you need to unmute your...

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  She just typed in a message saying she just

    prefers to listen.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Makyla Hays?

         >> Thank you so much for having me tonight.  I'm Makyla Hays, I

    am the PCCEA vice president and the new AERC co-chair.  I saw that AP

    1.01.03 is on the information agenda tonight, and it states that

    stakeholder meetings were held and input solicited.

         If the policy is headed for posting tonight, I'm asking that the





    board ask the chancellor and legal office to take this back for

    collaboration and discussion before the AP is finalized and posted.

         This AP was presented to Faculty Senate in December, as part of a

    21-day comment.  At that time faculty raised questions and concerns

    about the implications of this AP as written.

         The ACC pulled the AP for further discussion with stakeholders,

    and while one discussion with the sponsoring unit followed at an ACC

    meeting, no further discussions involving faculty or the ACC occurred

    throughout the subsequent minor revision process.

         The multi-departmental collaborative editing process mentioned in

    the information item tonight did not include the very people who

    raised concerns and got the AP pulled in the first place.

         Shared governance ensures that this policy will be something that

    works well for the college.  We do have examples of APs that have

    gone through the review process and come out as stronger and better

    policies for employees and students at the end because stakeholder

    input and collaboration were valued.  We hope that this policy can go

    through this process to become the policy we hope it can be.

         While typically by the time a policy comes to the board as an

    information item, there is either limited concern or issues

    remaining, or the remaining issues are philosophical difference in

    how discrepancies should be resolved, this particular information

    item is misrepresenting to the board what has happened so far during

    the policy review process, and the item as stated implies input

    gathering and collaboration had occurred when it truly had not up to





    this point.

         This is not the only time faculty have felt this way about their

    "involvement" at the college, but as it has gone this far, as this

    process has gone this far, this would make this one of the most

    blatant examples of performative input gathering.  Genuine

    stakeholder input is essential for employee morale, and for our

    colleges fighting to be premier, this lack of transparency and shared

    collaboration related to this policy does not embody the expectations

    of what I believe this board has for the college.

         Thank you for listening, and I ask you to hold the administration

    to a higher standard of stakeholder engagement prior to key decisions

    being made that will affect employees and students.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Chair, if I might, so while I would

    disagree with the description of the process that's been provided, I

    had an offline conversation with Josie Milliken, the Faculty Senate

    president, and agreed that we are going to delay posting the final

    version of this until I've had a chance to clarify some of these

    issues with her.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Hay, could you repeat to me one more

    time the AP number that you have a concern about?

         >> 1.01.03.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Mr. Silvyn, would we need to take

    action -- it's for information only, so it hasn't -- it's really just

    for informing the board and the college that it's moving through the





    process?  So you're going to, Chancellor, you're going to take a look

    at this to see what we can do to...

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding

    and some miscommunication about what the facts are related to the

    process that was followed, so we're going to clarify that before we

    post what will be the final version.  If we need to make revisions,

    we can figure out a process for that.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I think it would be good to have as an

    information item maybe at the next meeting an explanation of how this

    process works and where the opportunities for input is and what broke

    down with this particular one.  Okay.  If that's possible at the next

    meeting.

         Okay.  Thank you very much, Ms. Hays, for bringing that forward.

    I want to give Amy Feldman, was here to speak and wasn't on the line.

         >> Hello.  Okay.  Hello to the Pima County College Board and

    Chancellor.  I'm calling today to bring up the issue of Joseph Morgan

    and his employment at the college with the Downtown Campus Upward

    Bound program.

         Joseph Morgan is a far-right zealot who supported, attended, and

    championed the January 6 insurrection riot at our U.S. Capitol in

    Washington, D.C.  Since then he has posted public pictures on

    Facebook about his attendance at the Capitol riot.

         He has gone on local talk shows to discuss his attendance at the

    Capitol riot.  He continues to champion his attendance and that of

    others, and he also continues to spread the big lie that Joe Biden





    lost the election and that Donald Trump is still president.

         Morgan also proudly lists Pima Community College as his employer

    on his Facebook profile.

         Is this a person that the college really wants representing them?

    He has advocated for violence online and on talk shows and continues

    to call for more events like the Capitol riot.

         This is not a man who should be working in the public education,

    let alone with the young and impressionable students at Amphi,

    Flowing Wells, and Rincon High Schools that the Downtown Upward Bound

    program serves.  With Upward Bound being funded by a grant from the

    U.S. Department of Education, it makes more of a problem that Joseph

    Morgan is being directly paid by the federal government that he

    plotted and attended a riot to overthrow.

         This is unacceptable.  No one that plots to overthrow the

    government should be making a living off that government.  This is

    the epitome of White privilege.

         I was part of a group of people that e-mailed and called the

    college to notify them of the danger posed by Mr. Morgan.  Our

    concerns were met with the tone-deaf or obtuse e-mail from Dr. Irene

    Robles-Lopez that downplayed our concerns and stated that Joseph

    Morgan was merely engaging in free speech protected by the 1st

    Amendment.  The 1st Amendment is not an absolute.  It does not

    protect all speech and all instances.  It protects one from going to

    jail for their speech.  It does not protect them from public ridicule

    or from being fired from a public employment position.





         Attending a riot that intended to overthrow the federal

    government is not free speech.  It's anarchy.  Whether Morgan entered

    the building or not is irrelevant.  He was on the public grounds of

    the Capitol as his pictures online show, and I believe he would have

    entered the building had he been at the front of the mob.

         All this, and he continues to list Pima Community College as his

    employer on his Facebook page.  Our only community college in Tucson

    deserves better.  Our school children at Amphi, Flowing Wells, and

    Rincon deserve better.

         Thus I'm asking again is this the type of person Pima Community

    College wants representing them?  I kindly and respectfully ask that

    you do something before Mr. Morgan acts out violently again, and I

    thank you for your time.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you for your comment.

         We will try to reengage Mary Esther Rosales one more time.

    Ms. Rosales?  You just need to unmute and make sure there are no

    other windows with the YouTube Channel on.

         >> Okay.  Can you hear me now?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Please go ahead.  You have three minutes.

    Thank you.

         >> Hello?  My name is Mary Esther Rosales.  I'm calling today to

    bring up the issue of Joseph Morgan.  His actions on January 6 at the

    Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., were not professional and did

    not display a good example of the leadership that is required and

    expected from a support technician at Pima Community College.  He





    supports violence online and on a talk radio and continues to call

    for more events like the Capitol riot.

         I understand he has the right under the 1st Amendment.  However,

    his actions do not fall under the 1st Amendment.  Attending a planned

    riot that intended to overthrow the federal government is not free

    speech.  His actions should be investigated by the FBI and also by

    this Pima College board and appropriate action should be taken.  This

    is surely not a man that should be working in public education.

         Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much for your comment.

         Finally, last person, we will try Benny Gomez again.

         >> He's not listed currently.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  So that concludes the public

    comment.  Thank you very much for taking the time to share with us

    your concerns.

         The next item on our agenda is item 1.4, remarks by the Governing

    Board members.  I have nothing to report at this time.

         Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  I have nothing at this time.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Well, I want to thank everybody for

    attending and hope everybody stays safe, gets their vaccinations, and

    hopefully we'll come back to the college and everything will open up

    again.  Looking forward to the day.

         Thank you.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much.

         Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Nothing to report today.  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much.  Finally, Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Hi.  Yes, thank you so much everyone

    for attending.  I just want to report it's my second month on the

    job, and I had a wonderful tour of the facilities, the newest center

    of excellence for automotive production and was really impressed.

         It was great to see the Downtown Campus still under construction

    but looking really good, and I'm really excited for the day when the

    students can all return.

         I do miss teaching, but I'm glad to be here.  A lot going on.  I

    think that I really want to give strong kudos to the champions of the

    school, faculty and staff and the students, for plowing through this

    last year.  It's been exactly a year since we went to remote/online

    teaching, and it's been tough, everybody has been a trooper, everyone

    from, people that have had to stay home with their kids and take

    classes and teach classes.

         I'm really proud of Pima Community College for doing it well.

    From what I have been researching, doing it a lot better than a lot

    of community colleges, not that it's a competition, but I really

    wanted to thank everybody and I'm really proud to be here.  Thanks.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Ms. Ripley.

         Next we have our item 2.1 for reports, our administrative

    reports.  35 minutes set aside, and just to let everybody know that





    about a minute before the presentation time is over I'll just give

    you a heads-up that the time is coming to a close.

         Looks like the first item is our Office of Dispute Resolution,

    ODR, update with Ross and Marty, investigators for ODR.

         Chancellor Lambert, do you want to give a little introduction?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Yes.  So we're so pleased to report to the

    board an update on the operation of our ODR.  Just for background for

    some of the board members who were not part of the board at the time,

    this was a new system we put in place in response to the numerous

    complaints that the college had received many, many years ago, as

    well as part of our HLC resolution as it relates to complaints.

         So you're going to hear tonight some of the complaints that we

    receive and how they are resolved.  So I will turn it over to Ross.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  And you have 10 minutes.

         >> Hello, everyone.  I will be starting.  I'm Martina Macias.  I

    go by Marty.  I started my career as a Civil Rights investigator in

    1997.  I have been with Pima College's office of dispute resolution

    for two years.

         Our offices are located on the second floor at the District

    Office, which we have not been in for a year, which is okay because

    the students, the employees, and any member of our community are

    still able to contact us to file complaints, make inquiries, lodge

    concerns or even make suggestions by all but one of the methods we

    had in place for many years now, and that is that they can call us

    directly to a main line that we have in our office, 206-4686, for





    which we have made sure we have a voice over Internet protocol set in

    place so if anyone does call that empty office, we will get a message

    if they leave it.

         They can also e-mail, submit complaints or inquiries through our

    dedicated resolution at Pima.edu e-mail.  They can also file reports

    using the hotline, by going online to the compliance and ethics

    hotline, or even by calling a toll-free number, both of which offer

    the individual an option to remain anonymous if they so choose.

         I think I might have already said it but I will repeat it.  We

    serve employees, students, and any member of the community.  We take

    and assess complaints either about equal employment opportunity

    discrimination from current or prospective employees.  We take

    student complaints that range from grade issues to also to

    allegations of discrimination.

         We forward Title IX issues regarding sex discrimination to the

    Title IX coordinators, but we are also available to conduct the

    investigation of those complaints if we are asked to do so.  We

    assess and process employee grievances, as well.

         Anything that doesn't fall into those categories, anything-else

    category, is also something that comes through our office.

         All of those processes, all of those functions are managed or

    tracked in our EthicsPoint database, which we also use to prepare our

    quarterly reports showing the statistics regarding types of

    complaints, looking for any patterns that may exist and looking at

    solutions for those.





         All of those things that I have mentioned are managed by me and

    the other individual in the office.  Actually, I forgot to say that

    I'm an advantaged analyst, I'm the investigator there, and the other

    individual is my co-worker, Ross.

         >> Thank you, Marty.  I'm going to be providing some historical

    context for everybody today.  We only have a short time, so I will be

    sharing some historical context and then I will be showing a couple

    of slides with statistics, and I will try to get through this

    material quickly so I can answer any questions.

         ODR is a product or a ODR has come as a result rather of an HLC

    recommendation in part to provide an entity that could provide clear

    information regarding and receiving complaints and grievances from

    all constituents of the college.

         Two committees were formed for that task, and subsequently the

    committees proposed a plan to create an independent complaints and

    grievance entity for all complaints for the college.

         This entity was to serve as a center repository for these

    complaints, a place that could be triaged and have the investigative

    component to it, the reporting and then the records retention all in

    one central location.

         On February 7 of 2014, Chancellor Lambert approved that plan and

    then by July of 2014 the office of dispute resolution was instituted

    at Pima Community College.

         Here are some of our numbers.  This is from 2015, fiscal year

    2015 to fiscal year 2020, and you'll see that our total number of





    complaints for 2015 was about 115 complaints.  We average about 100

    complaints per fiscal year.

         In fiscal year 2020, we got real close to hitting that 115

    complaint mark, but the difference was is that the student and

    employee complaint ratios flipped.  If you'll look at the chart down

    below, it shows the different constituents and the number of

    complaints that came in per year.  What I was talking about the

    number of complaints from fiscal year 2015 and fiscal year 2020 are

    really very close.  However, if you notice in fiscal year 2015, we

    had 73 employee complaints, whereas in fiscal year 2020 we had 79

    student complaints.  That's reflective of what was happening at that

    time at Pima Community College.

         ODR in fiscal year 2015 was dealing with all the employee issues

    that stemmed from the whole reason of erecting ODR.  In 2020 we have

    the pandemic.  So those numbers changed.

         One of the things that Marty and I do is we look for trends.

    Although we had a large spike in student complaints, there are no

    real trends.  In the beginning with the pandemic we did notice that

    there were some problems with the transition of going from in-person

    courses to an online modality.  But those things quickly smoothed

    out.

         This slide shows our outcomes and our findings.  There are 10

    different outcomes for any given complaint.  I think what's really

    important to focus on this slide though is our substantiated or

    partially substantiated category or outcomes and findings.





         You'll see that it's a relatively low number in comparison to the

    total complaints that we have per fiscal year.  I think the highest

    that we have had was about 22% of complaints that come in that are

    substantiated or partially substantiated.  The rest of it is around

    10% or below, the rest of the year.

         That's really our presentation.  We wanted to leave some room for

    questions.  Do we have any questions?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Are there questions?  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  So this was, the ODR was what

    replaced Meet and Confer?  Is that correct?

         >> No, ma'am.  No, ma'am, we didn't replace Meet and Confer.  We

    are a separate entity that was stood up as a result of the HLC, in

    part as a result of the HLC recommendation to have a centralized

    repository for complaints.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  So it's just the complaint process?

         >> Correct.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Sorry, if I might just add to that?

         So the Pima College still has Meet and Confer.  It's now through

    an organization or a group called the All Employee Representative

    Council --

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Oh, that's right.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  -- that has membership from different

    aspects of different segments of the workforce at Pima, and that

    group deals with workplace and personnel policies and procedures.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  My mistake.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Could you tell us a little bit just about

    your sense of people's comfort with the current complaint process, or

    have you heard concerns about the existing complaint process and

    people's willingness to come forward if they have concerns that they

    feel they need addressed?

         >> Absolutely.  One of the things that ODR has, we use a

    complaint management system called EthicsPoint, and we have a true

    anonymous source to be able to take anonymous complaints through an

    online form or by telephone.  So anybody who is uncomfortable coming

    forward has that resource.

         Now, we haven't got any feedback that people are uncomfortable.

    Marty and I have about a 50/50 chance of somebody being unhappy with

    the process, just because it's going to go one way or the other, and

    somebody's not going to be completely happy with the end result.

         It's rare that we have both parties happy with the end result of

    an investigation.  The feedback that we get most of the time, more

    often than not, is positive feedback.  Positive feedback in that,

    hey, you really helped us accomplish what we're looking to get done

    here through this complaint.

         It's rare that we get negative feedback.  However, there has been

    some negative feedback, and that is usually filtered through Jeff

    Silvyn who then, you know, sits down with folks and says, okay, what

    is it exactly that you don't like about the ODR process?  Lots of

    times it's more of we don't like the end result than the process

    itself.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Can you tell us, so if someone is making

    an anonymous complaint, they can make a call or go through your

    portal, and then what information do they need to provide, what level

    of information needs to be provided that you can then take the

    complaint seriously and actually conduct an investigation so it

    doesn't just get put aside as not enough information?

         >> So the main thing we look for obviously is going to depend on

    the group that that complaint or inquiry is coming from, right?  So,

    for example, if it's a student and they are complaining about a

    specific course, we want to make sure that we are verifying that we

    are actually speaking with that student so we ask that they

    communicate with us through their Pima College e-mail.  We ask for

    their identification number, and then specifically want to know the

    details of the complaint, what class is it, who is the instructor,

    have you -- we try to determine whether that person is aware, first

    of all, that there is an informal process that begins that complaint

    and whether that's been followed.

         There are so many different variables that it's difficult to say,

    but we do need to know who's complaining, specifically what they are

    complaining, and then we determine what they are complaining about,

    if substantiated, would constitute a violation of a college policy.

         We rarely just say, hey, we don't have enough information,

    good-bye.  We spend a lot of time trying to educate the person,

    here's the policy, please refer to it, this is what we need.

         We are patient.  We wait and see if we get a response.  If we





    don't, we follow up again, hey, did it get resolved, or do you no

    longer need our assistance?  It's not very common that we just close

    a complaint due to insufficient information.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Chair, if I might just add one other

    thing.  If an individual really wanted to remain completely

    anonymous, they can.  The system allows members of ODR to post

    questions through that portal, and for the person on the other side

    to communicate without an e-mail address exchange.

         So if someone wanted to provide detailed information, this is

    when it happened, where it happened, the witnesses, et cetera, but

    didn't want to give their own identifying information, there is a way

    for that to happen through the system that would allow ODR to have

    enough information to do some level of follow-up inquiry without

    having to know the specific identity of the complaining party.  So

    that is possible.

         >> Mr. Chair, I think it's also important to note that anonymity

    comes with limitations on due process, and we recognize that up

    front.  So we tell these people that, you know, if it's an anonymous

    complaint that there will be limitations, because the person who is

    being accused has the right to know who is accusing and what's being

    said.  So that's an important component of anonymous complaints, as

    well, that I think are important.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Have any of the complaints -- so if

    somebody brings a complaint, is there a process where, you know, it

    doesn't come out in their direction, and then there is sort of a





    concern about retaliation, is there a process, a follow-up process on

    that that your office deals with?  Or what is our internal process

    for that?  Does it get managed through your department?

         >> I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Somebody comes forward with a concern, it

    gets resolved, and then they feel there has been some retaliation

    against them because they brought the complaint forward, is there a

    process in your office to deal with that?

         >> Right.  Actually, we start with advising a person that they

    are protected against retaliation if, for example, they have brought

    an allegation of discrimination.  So it's part of that comfort that

    we were talking about earlier.  We like to reassure people, hey, it's

    okay.  If you do believe that you're experiencing something that is

    happening because you filed a complaint, you do have protection

    against retaliation.  If something occurs, you would be able to file

    a separate complaint specifically just about retaliation, which would

    then initiate a second investigation.

         So we talk to people about that at the beginning, sometimes

    during, and definitely at the end, especially if the outcome is that

    the allegations are not, are unsubstantiated, we do remind them, you

    still have protection.  If anything does happen, you have any

    concerns, call and let us know right away.

         >> Mr. Chair, there is also a form that we use called a rules,

    rights, and responsibilities form.  All of that is outlined in that

    form that each participant gets, and they sign that form with that





    information on there.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much.  Thank you, both of

    you, for your work and your diligence in these investigations.

         Looks like Ms. Ripley has a question.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yeah, just really quick, sorry.

         Could you describe what your relationship is and if there is

    crossover at all with human resources?  In most institutions this

    would fall under human resources.  Can you just briefly describe the

    relationship or if there is one or if there is a crossover or is it

    siloed?

         >> That's a great question.  And, yes, we work hand in hand with

    HR.  Typically it's a handoff to the first-line supervisor who is

    going to get our report in conjunction with employee relations, HR,

    to take the next steps per policy.

         So we work collaboratively with HR; however independent of HR.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any other questions?  I would just

    reiterate if anyone feels they are ending up in a situation that they

    feel uncomfortable or they are being treated unfairly or there's a

    violation of college policy, please come forward through our process.

    Notify the office through the portal.

         This board doesn't tolerate bad behavior from anyone in this

    institution, and I think we have made that very clear year after

    year.

         Again, thank you for your work helping to resolve these issues,





    and we will move on to our next item.

         Next is our mission update with Dr. Nic Richmond.  Dr. Richmond,

    you have five minutes.

         >> DR. RICHMOND:  Thank you.  Chair Clinco, members of the board,

    Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests.

         It's my pleasure to be here this evening to provide a very brief

    update on the status of the mission fulfillment review.  I will share

    my screen for just one moment.

         Shared on screen and available in the board packet are the

    current draft statements as they stand after the Futures Conference.

    As things currently look, we have good alignment around two of the

    statements, though there is one we are still looking to make slight

    revisions to.  The purpose is generally fairly well accepted.  We

    received some input through the Futures Conference but nothing that

    really tipped us towards making changes in a particular direction.

         When we asked the attendees whether they liked the statement, 74%

    said they did, 18% were neutral, and 7% disliked, which is relatively

    good level of agreement because we have to know going into this not

    everyone will like all of the statements.

         The vision statement has been collapsed into one statement as

    opposed to the three that we had.  Now, based on the input we

    received there was some somewhat polarizing language in some of the

    drafts about Pima being the first choice for education and the

    language about premier community college.  Some people liked that.

    Some people felt strongly against it.





         So at the moment we have this, but we know this is an area we

    need to work on, because this isn't as aspirational as we might like

    it to be.  I very much welcome the board's input on how we might

    revise the statement and if you like the language of premier

    community college or first choice for education.  We have that input

    as we move forward.

         The mission statement is an area where we need to do a little

    more work.  Let me scroll through here and get the responses.

         Based on the Futures Conference attendees, about 56% of people

    liked this statement.  29% were neutral.  15% disliked it.  That's

    not quite where we might want this to be so we are not really

    comfortable that this is a good quality final draft yet.

         We did make a couple of minor revisions in here primarily

    switching language from student to learner, which was supported

    through the conference input.  But we are at the point now where we

    are taking a long, hard look at the subsections where we have every

    learner, every day, every goal.

         We're not sure, based on the input, whether these need to stay or

    whether we need to collapse some of this into the summary statement,

    and at the end I will summarize what we are going to do next to

    gather more input as we work on a decision on that front.

         The final section is about behaviors.  These were really well

    liked based on Futures Conference input, so let me see what the

    numbers look like.  80% liked the behaviors.  Considered them

    important.  19% were neutral.  Only one person, 1% at that point in





    time for the event, disliked this statement.

         We did make some minor revisions based on input from a community

    member to specify employee here instead of the more general language

    that we had.  We also recently received input about innovate and

    changing the language so it's positive.  At the moment we have do not

    be afraid to take risks but reframing that in the positive, because

    these should be about positive behaviors and positive routes forward

    for the institution.  We will rework that section, as well.

         As it currently stands, these are the draft statements that we

    have.  Now, one thing that we were struck by after the Futures

    Conference is we had very, very limited student input on these

    statements.

         So in particular, for the mission statement, our plan is the next

    step is we will take this to student groups to gather input from our

    students as we work to refine these statements.

         We will likely also roll updated statements into one of the

    Futures Conference events so the community and attendees have another

    opportunity to comment on the drafts.

         The intention at this point is that in April Dr. Sovak and I will

    bring another summary report to the Governing Board and then we will

    bring the final statements for approval in May.  That will give us

    enough time to ensure we can get good student input before we submit

    statements for the board's final consideration.

         With that, that's the update.  I would request input on the

    timeline that I suggested for this and also invite your comments on





    these draft statements.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Are there comments from the board?  I

    don't see anyone.

         I would say I think, you know, I really like the premier

    community college and the aspirational quality of that.  I think it's

    something that the board and we have heard stated over and over

    again, and I think it's important to retain it in the vision.  So I

    would strongly support that.

         I think the timeline sounds good, but I want to make sure that

    the board really has opportunity at the next meeting, maybe we

    schedule a little bit more discussion like we have sort of a last

    opportunity to dialogue in.  I would ask that any board members who

    have any concerns about the language be in touch with Chancellor

    Lambert's office to get that to Dr. Richmond as soon as possible so

    they can weave that in.

         Does that sound reasonable to everybody?  Okay.  Thank you,

    Dr. Richmond.

         Our next item is our reskilling and recovery, Dr. Ian Roark, vice

    president for workforce development and strategic partnerships.

         >> DR. IAN ROARK:  Thank you, Board Chair Clinco, Governing

    Board, Chancellor, colleagues and guests.  I'm very excited to give a

    brief update about what has been the reskilling and recovery network

    update or broadly reskilling and recovery update.

         When we talk about reskilling and recovery, we are in fact

    talking about a point in time with respect to the economic downturn





    that was caused as a result of the pandemic and that we are still

    feeling the effects of.

         I will not go into great detail on the data points today but will

    point some out and also where you can find greater levels of detail

    with respect to what is now turning out for the community that we

    serve and the nation to be a K-shaped recovery.

         Reskilling and recovery for us at Pima Community College occurs

    at a national level, at the state level with Arizona, as well as the

    regional and local level.

         We are very proud to report that at each of these levels, Pima

    Community College is not only involved but is a thought and action

    leader with respect to various entities inviting Pima leadership to

    be a part of and in many instances lead the design of reskilling and

    recovery plans that impact both policy and new initiatives.

         We have talked many times before with respect to upskilling and

    reskilling presentations about the pandemic and then how do we

    prioritize the problems caused by it.

         In many instances, we already had a real unemployment level that

    was not as good as what we call headline unemployment.  So right now

    trending 6 to 7% disengaged workforce is actually still upwards of

    13% across the state of Arizona.

         Equally with the skills gap we have too many individuals with

    high school diploma or less while under the auspices of Achieve60

    which guides our strategic plan, economic development and growth in

    the state of Arizona and our community requires 60% or more of our





    eligible workforce having postsecondary attainment up to and

    including an Associate's degree, industry-recognized certificate,

    credential, or apprenticeship.

         We have not enough workers in Pima County and in Arizona in that

    what we call skills level or middle skills band that is the domain of

    our community colleges and for Pima Community College.

         52% of the workforce is required to be at any of the levels that

    we offer and provide, whereas we are at 46% of the workforce having

    the credentials that we offer.

         Finally, we also know that in our community automation was going

    to be displacing and/or significantly altering 40% of the jobs in our

    own economy here in Pima County by 2028.  And the negative impacts of

    the pandemic accelerated both the pressure that we had on wages and

    low-wage jobs.  I forgot to mention that in Pima County 50% of our

    workforce is at the median wage of $10 an hour, and that impacts

    175,400 workers according to the Brookings Institute in our own

    community, our friends and neighbors, that fall into the low wage

    categories.  The pandemic impacted people of color, single female

    head households, and those in the low-wage jobs the most.

         So the reskilling, recovery efforts focus on economic development

    priorities, (indiscernible) gap analysis, short-term interventions

    leading to a systems alignment, strategic initiatives at the

    programmatic level and policy level to address these negative impacts

    of the pandemic.

         For this presentation, jumping right to the recommendations of





    the state level reskilling and recovery network report.  The

    initiatives focus on systems alignment between the two state-level

    systems that really have the breadth and depth to meet the needs of

    our working learners in this challenging time.  That is our public

    workforce system, ARIZONA@WORK, and Arizona's community colleges,

    including Pima Community College.  Focuses on reskilling and

    upskilling at scale, expansion of early college models.

         In our state of Arizona there are only two high schools that are

    full-fledged early college high schools where high school students

    can earn an entire Associate's degree.  Both of those are currently

    in Maricopa County, and there are policy reasons as to why that's the

    case, as an example.

         Expansion of the great work that Pima Community College is

    leading with the expansion of our IBEST programs and partnering with

    career and technical education, so that individuals can earn that

    high school equivalency and a college credential at the same time.

         There are a number of policy things that the initiatives are not

    fully dependent on but can certainly help.  For example, House Bill

    2021 currently moving forward in the legislature is responsive to

    removing the arbitrary cap on freshmen and sophomores in high school,

    and that is a key policy piece to allowing us to expand that early

    college high school model and CTE as an example.

         With the next steps, the state-level report was released last

    week with a press release.  In this PowerPoint I do believe you can

    still hit these hot links on the website.  You can hit the press





    release as well as the full report and the executive summary of the

    report through these links.  We will also e-mail those to Andrea to

    make sure you have those following tonight's meeting.

         The implementation plan now takes the recommendations and the

    policy recommendations and focuses for Arizona's community colleges

    on a two- to three-year strategic effort sort of paralleling the

    University's new economy initiative that all 10 community college

    districts are focused on.

         There is already work underway, including some of the policies

    that I mentioned tonight and more, and Pima continues to be invited

    on to state and national level work groups that will continue to

    shape policy as well as practice with respect to unifying our public

    workforce system and the power of education and training that our

    community college brings to our community and the community colleges

    bring to our state.

         In addition, we will be having regional tours with each workforce

    board in partnership with the colleges and the ARIZONA@WORK

    localities.  And there is going to be through Sun Corridor Inc. a

    local report that in many ways was informed directly by the state and

    national level work on reskilling and recovery.

         That is it for this brief version of the update.  If there are

    any questions, we are ready.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Are there any questions for Dr. Roark?

         Okay.  I don't see any.  Dr. Roark, thank you for all your

    incredible work.  If you could please let us know when the tour is on





    the college campuses, I think the board would love to be in

    attendance and greet and welcome those workforce leaders.  Thank you

    so much for your work in this area and the update.

         Next we have our robotics with Greg Wilson, dean of applied

    technology.  Mr. Wilson.

         >> GREG WILSON:  Good evening, Chairman Clinco, members of the

    board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues, students, guests.  Thank you

    for this opportunity to present a quick update on our AIT robotics

    and Industry 4.0 components of our AIT program.

         I know we throw Industry 4.0 around quite a bit, so to provide

    some context in terms of the funding that we receive from the board

    and how we have used it, I just want to give you a quick definition

    before we show how that impacts our employer partners and obviously

    our students, and then I will share a couple of pieces of equipment

    that the funding the board provided allowed us to purchase, how we

    are putting that all together, and then I will end with what's coming

    next.

         Industry 4.0 basically, the easy definition is that it is the

    digitization of manufacturing.  So you have equipment that shares

    information usually wirelessly.  And the point of it is to produce or

    manufacture a product more efficiently and with less waste.

         So, you know, when we talk to employer partners tied to our AIT

    industry, they really focus on four things.  First of course would be

    safety, cost, speed, and quality.

         So our AIT program, the very first step that all of our students





    go through is AIT 100, which is a safety class.  Our students earn an

    OSHA 10 industry credential before they then move on to the next

    steps.

         Currently with our equipment in the AIT program, if you look at

    these different blocks of what it means to cover different aspects of

    Industry 4.0, we cover all of these blocks, but the last two,

    augmented virtual reality and 3D printing, while we do have that

    equipment at Downtown Campus --

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Sorry to interrupt.  If you're sharing a

    presentation, we are not seeing it.

         >> GREG WILSON:  Oh.  Thank you for letting me know.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  No problem.

         >> GREG WILSON:  It looked like it came through.  Thank you,

    Demion.  How about now?

         >> Yes.

         >> GREG WILSON:  All right.  Skipping through, these are the

    things we are going to cover quickly in five minutes.  Again, 4.0,

    connecting wirelessly, sharing information between equipment.

         When I mentioned the blocks, we have all of these covered in our

    current equipment.  We just have not yet integrated the augmented and

    virtual reality or the 3D printing, so we are still working on

    putting that together.

         But the $500,000 in special funding that the board provided did

    give us quite a bit of some pretty cool stuff.  So we have nine what

    are called Universal Robots, and these are collaborative robots, so





    it means an employee working with this equipment can touch it, move

    it, and safely do so.  The equipment will stop if the robot gets too

    close or something like that.

         We also have a KUKA robot in the lab, and then we also have an

    industrial robot, FANUC robot.  If you've been into the lab you know

    that's behind class because it is not a collaborative robot.  If it

    swings toward you, it's going to hit you.

         So getting to these collaborative robots, you can see the

    different pieces that came with this purchase.  The important pieces

    are the grippers, the suction, and then the one that's actually on

    the light blue piece to the right, you have also got vision.

         So when you have cameras that are, you know, taking in all the

    information of the production line, it provides our faculty and

    students a lot of information to analyze and then make wise decisions

    when it comes to improving a process.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  What's the sense of scale in this picture?

         >> GREG WILSON:  These come in three to five feet tall.  So with

    the nine that we have, you know, they are going to be stationed on

    tables throughout the lab.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Cool.  Thank you.

         >> GREG WILSON:  Uh-huh.  As a matter of fact, our faculty and

    staff were in training today.  That was another aspect of the funding

    that we were able to cover.

         The cool piece, this is what's called a Robotino, a wireless

    robot that will go between stations of the production process.  You





    know, we have benchmarked quite a few programs.  Just to give you an

    idea of what our students will be working with, the lab in Reno,

    Nevada, at Truckee Meadows Community College that we visited, when

    they set up their system, they had two Robotinos, and they were

    getting in each other's way.  They would pick up a piece of equipment

    off a conveyor, and both robots would show up at the same spot.

         Again, it's all about wirelessly communicating.  One robot

    decided, you know what?  I'm in the way, I'm going to stand over here

    by the wall, and the other one continue the process.  The second

    robot figured out -- mind you, this is not faculty intervening, the

    robots figured this out themselves, realized it could be more

    productive doing another step in the production process.

         So we have one of these coming.  Part of what I wanted to share

    was numbers in terms of increasing our FTSE.  Unfortunately, when our

    equipment was delivered, our Robotino and one of the stations were

    damaged in transit.  So the company of course didn't -- we didn't

    have to say anything.  They are fixing it, and it's on its way back

    to us.  We are still in the process of putting everything together.

         This is the station where the conveyor belts are included.  So if

    you think about a company like Amazon or, you know, any one of those

    large manufacturers, our students are really getting the pieces and

    parts, not just the technical know-how.  But again, programming

    robots, analyzing the data that is coming through.  This carries

    across to so many different programs.

         You know, we were speaking with workforce and logistics today,





    because you think about, you know, how that whole process goes

    together.  Certainly same thing with business and IT or obviously the

    autonomous operator certificate.

         So what's next for us is obviously getting the equipment in, but

    we are also going to continue to expand what we do with sensors and

    data acquisition.  If I jump back one, you kind of see how that's a

    modular system.  We expect to buy a couple more stations, and that is

    specifically for AIT, but you also get things where you can put a

    robot next to one of the CNC machines in machining.  And there are

    tieovers with CAD.

         Just skipping ahead again, we have been in touch with JTED, have

    shared information about how our programs align.  We met with them

    last week and we will be continuing this especially as we start to

    return to campuses.

         There is certainly a lot of crossover within PCC, as I mentioned

    with workforce, business and IT, and we are also doing a specific

    data analytic certification with another manufacturer that can affect

    healthcare and other areas, and of course Ian mentioned IBEST, we

    have an IBEST cohort that has come through AIT and we are hoping to

    do that again.  Cybersecurity comes into play.

         So we have been in contacts with UA faculty and they want to

    participate once we are back to doing things normally.  Then of

    course as far as the network goes, we do all of this in partnership

    with the Maricopa system and Central Arizona College.

         Even before the pandemic, when you look at internships and





    apprenticeships, we were attracting employers from across the country

    who were sending their technicians to us to learn these processes.

         The funding has been great.  It's allowing us to expand and go in

    new directions, and we are just going to keep pushing.  Again,

    sensors and data will be very important across a lot of different

    areas.

         Any questions?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Greg, if I may, can you just remind the

    board employment opportunities of your graduates in Pima County?

         >> GREG WILSON:  Yeah.  So faculty, we were talking about this

    earlier, and they checked within the last 30 days, there were, you

    know, instrumentation, automation, postings for construction,

    healthcare, manufacturing.  You know, our students are working at

    companies like Raytheon, GW Plastics, Precision Engineering.  It's

    all over the place.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any members of the board?

         Thank you very much, Mr. Wilson.  We appreciate the update and

    keep up the great work.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Can I just ask Greg one quick question?

         Greg, when you go into the new building, what difference is it

    going to really make to have more of that space, given what these new

    additions of equipment and processes?

         >> GREG WILSON:  I would say a couple of things.  If you've been

    in our space, you know how crowded and cramped it can be.  When we





    talk about adding extra modules to a CP line or a factory --

    currently we just don't have the space to do it.  We have nine UR

    robots on tables that are cramped next to each other.  The space will

    be one big thing.

         The other thing, you know, when we describe the center of

    excellence and the advanced manufacturing building specifically, it's

    a three-story, 100,000-square-foot makerspace.  And so faculty will

    be working together to criss-cross across the floors, across

    departments.

         I mentioned AIT.  You think about computer-aided design and

    designing processes and adding the 3D printing, that's all going to

    be spread across three floors.  I mentioned U of A as a partner.  We

    partner with them on Design Day, which is a process that their senior

    engineering students take and Pima students now participate in that

    process.  So we will have pods where those engineering teams can come

    together and actually build products that solve industry problems.

         So, I mean, the building's just going to make a huge difference.

    Obviously we are not waiting for that.  We have already started these

    processes.  But it's going to be a really big draw.

         We hope to do a lot more locally obviously, pulling companies in

    from national areas and then hopefully bringing them to Tucson to

    just improve our economy.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Greg, with the new space, are you able to

    teach for cohorts, as well?  Is your number of students coming

    through your program going to increase?





         >> GREG WILSON:  For sure.  We have talked about doubling the

    number, our enrollment and maybe tripling once we get to that point.

    You are all probably familiar with the Caterpillar or what we do with

    Raytheon.

         When it comes to the Applied Technology Academy, we could only

    run those classes on Friday mornings when there was space in the

    existing labs.  But having the 12,000-square-foot flexible industry

    training lab in partnership with workforce and just drawing everybody

    in, we will be able to schedule that type of training whenever we

    want to, you know, in partnership with the industry.

         So, yeah, it's going to make a huge difference.  And I talked

    about the high schools, we know that that number of students coming

    is limited, but we certainly want to make sure we do everything to

    capture them and set them on the pipeline to us, U of A, NAU, our

    90/30 partnership, but really we want to make sure we are bringing

    industry folks in and giving them, whether it's credit or short--term

    micropathways, that's what it's all about for us.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Meredith already asked the questions I was

    thinking about.  So, yeah, increasing enrollment and who are the

    industry partners.  That's it.  Thank you.

         >> GREG WILSON:  And we are bringing some stuff back, like

    optics, which we haven't run in a while.  We look forward to

    partnering with Optics Valley.  That's another link between JTED and

    us.  Yeah, enrollment is going to go up.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Mr. Wilson.

         Next we have our enrollment update with David Arellano, dean of

    enrollment management.

         >> DAVID ARELLANO:  I will preface I do not have any robots in my

    presentation.  That's definitely great work by Dean Wilson.

         Good evening, Chairperson of the Board, board members, Chancellor

    Lambert, colleagues and guests.  I'm going to provide a brief update

    from enrollment management.

         With that, I'm going to start off with our spring '21 enrollment.

    Exiting the 45th day census period, we still have our declines, but

    what I'm really excited to share with the board is that when we hone

    in and specifically look at our second eight-week sessions, we are

    seeing an increase.  So the data is showing an increase compared to

    last spring.

         When we look at this increase, there is a variety of reasons and

    probabilities why.  But one of the things we are looking at is we did

    modify some of the ways we were scheduling classes for the spring in

    anticipation of possible reopenings.

         And it also could be attributed to changes in student behaviors.

    Maybe they were trying our first eight-week sessions to get a feel

    for the modalities that we were offering, and then once they got that

    feel they are continuing on to the second eight weeks.

         So some of these increases are really being shown in programs

    around business, so bookkeeping, enrolled agent, some of our

    healthcare or health adjacent such as clinical research coordinator,





    veterinary technology.  We are also looking at our computer and cyber

    areas, computer programmer, systems administrator, digital arts.  And

    some of our transfer programs like liberal arts and Associate's of

    science.  Definitely some promising information there as we progress

    into summer and fall enrollment.

         I also wanted to kind of just touch base on some of the events

    student affairs has been putting on.  We are really gearing up for

    summer and fall enrollment, and we have started to produce and host

    events that are specific to high school student populations, our

    current students, and then just community members at large.

         So looking just a few quick kind of highlights, our Access and

    Disability Resources just hosted an event for high schools and

    community members and organizations where we had over 120 attendees

    attend this virtual information session to talk about how we can

    support students as they transition to college and in that virtual or

    in-person environments.

         We have also began our series with the Sunnyside Unified School

    District, our Path to Pima sessions, so it's a series of six sessions

    where we break down the enrollment funnel and work with that school

    district to specifically work with students to get them into Pima.

         We also have our first-year engagement series continuing to run

    with Connect U and Popcorn With a Program, but also specifically they

    have partnered with our financial aid office to promote, to conduct

    an event related to financial literacy, and that's going to be very

    important for our students, especially in these times when there is





    really some financial hardships out there and making the most of

    their Pell Grant and Earn to Learn options that the financial aid

    office has provided.

         With that, before I pass it on to my colleague, James Palacios

    from dual enrollment, I will open it up to any questions or comments.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any questions from the board?  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  What other schools will you be visiting

    besides Sunnyside?

         >> DAVID ARELLANO:  So these are virtual sessions.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Oh, okay.

         >> DAVID ARELLANO:  Keep in mind we are doing sessions with all

    high school students.  Some of those sessions are more on the

    individual basis, and so as we do look to scale this out, we have

    essentially created this session for the Sunnyside Unified School

    District.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Well, it would be nice to try to get, you

    know, Tucson High and Amphi and the Marana School District, something

    to take into consideration.

         >> DAVID ARELLANO:  Yes, definitely.  Like I said, the recruiters

    are working those events and they do have those connections and

    events going on with all school districts right now.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Are there any other questions for

    David?  No?  Okay.  Then we are going to move on to the next half of

    the presentation which is the dual enrollment with James Palacios.





         >> Good evening, Chairman Clinco, members of the board,

    Chancellor Lambert, colleagues, students, guests, community members.

    Thank you for allowing me to present a snapshot of our growing dual

    enrollment program.

         I first want to start out with how we broke it up in our

    districts.  This is what it looks like for our head count enrollment

    for each of the districts.  I'm going to show a slide here in a

    little bit on our five-year growth since 2017 and our one-year growth

    in one of our slides, or two-year growth that will show since the

    time that you approved the budget for us to expand dual enrollment

    and the opportunities to what we have now, and we are very happy to

    see the progress that we are making.

         Also, we are also excited that we started looking, started

    expanding our partnerships with other high schools and we are

    expanding into charter schools now and we are really trying to target

    a lot of the schools that we really didn't, didn't really participate

    in the past.

         Those are what I called two years ago our jump-start schools,

    those are the ones that were really having some good results with, as

    well.  So this is what it looks like.  When you look at the

    enrollment, we should be hitting about 8,000 enrollment by the time

    it's all said and done by the end of this year.

         The reason why I say that, is because right now we are still

    fixing some site codes.  We have to enroll a lot of our students

    manually.  The department does.  We don't have the online





    capabilities like the college, because we have so many students that

    we have to enroll, and there is only five employees that we really

    can process a lot of this.  But it's good, because it's personalized

    for us.

         So this is what it looks like.  We have grown, in two years that

    we have started this department, and I started at the college, we

    have grown over 120% of our enrollment.  We have grown our FTSE over

    120%, as well.  So when you look at our actual enrollment, this was a

    snapshot that was done on March 7, and we have 7,747 enrollment that

    we have already processed.

         We got some STU 100 courses that are starting here shortly, and

    so those numbers at the end of this year will be added to that, so

    that's why I'm saying we are projecting to get closer to 8,000 or

    past 8,000 enrollment.

         When you look at just our one-year enrollment from last year, we

    grew just in one year 61% of our enrollment and 65% of our FTSE just

    in that one year that we have been in existence as far as like a

    department for the college.

         We are very excited for this, and our schools are very excited as

    well because they have somebody that they can contact on a regular

    basis, whether it's calling me on my cellphone or texting me or

    e-mailing one of the dual enrollment members, we are available to

    them immediately and we are very responsive to them.

         Our goal at the college is that we contact each school that we

    partner with at least once in two weeks.  I know in the past the goal





    was to meet with them once a semester, but that's not enough when it

    becomes dual enrollment because there are so many things that are

    happening.  So we are really proud of the work that we are doing.

         So this is what I wanted to show you.  Our five-year trend, from

    the 2017 from the start of the strategic plan to ending it now is we

    have grown 365% of the enrollment.  That's very impressive to us, and

    my team didn't even realize that we even grew this much just in the

    two years that we have been together, because they have been so busy

    trying to process all the students and testing and virtual

    assessments, which takes a lot of time.  But I'm very proud of the

    work that they have done and the team that we have put together to

    really accomplish this.  It's been great for us.

         Our dual enrollment, just the head count portion of it, we have

    grown 330% in the five years of the strategic plan.  So just some

    great numbers that we are really proud of, but we are not done.  We

    still have some schools that we have to work with.  We still have

    some outside partnerships that we have to make sure that we solidify.

    We are really trying to work up the language and agreements to make

    sure that we have reached all of our schools in this county.

         There is over 100 schools we have to tap into.  We have over 70

    partnerships that we have already have established at this point.

         Are there any questions from the board at this point?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any questions?

         Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  I was going to say thank you.  Great job.





    I'm very impressed with it.  And your team.

         >> Thank you.  I will.  I hope they are watching tonight.  I did

    invite them, because I wanted to give them kudos.  They have done an

    excellent job.  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I want to echo that.  Could you tell us

    -- I have two questions.  One, do you have any idea of how much

    larger the program really can get, the dual enrollment program?

         >> So the way that we are looking at in the next two years

    -- actually, the next year, we are projecting hitting the 10,000

    enrollment mark, just because of the new course selection or course

    requests that are coming in, it looks like we can possibly hit the

    10,000 mark.

         Now, keep in mind with the early college and the concurrent

    enrollment students that we have right now participating, that's

    including early college, we are already over 10,000 students

    collectively.

         But just dual enrollment by itself, we should be able to get at

    the 10,000 mark next year, at the end of next year if not for sure we

    should be in the, surpassing that by fall of the next, 2023.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  That's just outstanding news to hear.

         My other question is are there data points in how many of these

    students who are doing dual enrollment are then enrolling as Pima

    students after they graduate from high school?

         >> That's one of the biggest tasks we are really trying to focus

    on.  That's why David Arellano had mentioned us here, because we are





    trying to create some partnerships to really target those kids.  I'm

    working on some pathways, not only the pathways that we have for the

    college but pathways that start with freshmen or sophomores in high

    school, because we are very confident that HB 2021 is going to pass,

    and that's really going to help us jump-start our goal to achieving

    the AZ60 goal that is established.

         So right now, the number is -- well, the incoming freshmen is not

    as high as I expected, but we knew that when I was coming in that

    that has to be a strategy.  That's what we are strongly working on at

    this point.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  So 10,000 in two years, that's incredible.

    How large do you think, especially with the new legislation, how

    large do you think the total pool eventually will sort of, you know,

    arrive at?

         >> Well, we have approximately 40,000 high schoolers in the Pima

    County area, so we are projecting somewhere between the 20 to 25% of

    that that we can work on.  We are also having conversations with high

    schools that typically are AP schools but we are looking at how do we

    include dual enrollment with our AP and our AP programs.

         So for example in a pathway, say, freshmen can take an AP course

    maybe the freshman/sophomore year, but they will be blending in some

    dual enrollment courses at the same time, so with that philosophy and

    that idea, we are actually looking at probably getting to about the

    20 to 25% of that 40,000 high school students in this area.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  That's terrific.  Do you have all the





    resources you need to be able to grow this?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  No?

         >> Is that a trick question?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  No, it's just...

         >> You know what?  I guess that could be another conversation

    another time, but I just have to say we're growing.  We are growing

    and we are growing fast.  We are growing faster than what my proposal

    was two years ago, so I would just leave it at that (smiling).

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I think it's good for the board to know so

    that as, in our conversations, that we are making sure that enough

    resources are incrementally growing with you so that your team isn't

    overwhelmed and you can really manage and succeed so these students

    who have this touchpoint have a really extraordinary experience with

    Pima.  Again, thank you.

         >> I appreciate that question.  Thank you very much for asking

    that.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  We really appreciate it.  Okay.  Moving

    on...

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  I'd just like to add one thing.  Yeah,

    I'm kind of echoing it, but it is just to push that point, press that

    point, it's really important what you're doing, and I think having a

    concerted effort towards recruitment and follow-through on the dual

    enrollment students to naturally progress as full-time students at

    Pima Community College, I think that's something that will really

    help with our enrollment and some day, you know, tuition issues.





         Anything that you need you have to voice to us.  I mean, I hear

    you say five staff people and 8,000 students, and you're taking their

    calls?  That seems like a lot to me.  So don't be shy about asking

    for things

         >> Thank you for that.  I appreciate that.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  You're very humble.  (Smiling.)

         >> You have to remember we started with just myself, and now we

    have five.  No, I understand.  Thank you so much for caring and

    understanding the potential of even expanding it further.  So I

    appreciate that.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much for your hard work.

         Okay.  Next we are on to our reports from representatives of the

    board.  The first report is our student report with Sage Fukae

    McCollough.

         >> Great.  I'm Sage Fukae McCollough.  I will be giving the

    student Governing Board report.

         For the Virtual Adult Education, ABECC will continue virtual

    programming in the April through June session.  The student

    engagement team is offering a How the Government Works in Your Life

    series.  Students will learn about the level of government as an

    important part of their lives through group discussions, reading

    materials, and other group activities.

         At the end of this series, students will get registered for the

    Request to Speak System at the state legislature and be trained on

    how to use in order to voice our opinions on legislative bills.





         For Virtual Student Life, we have the Rise Up Women's Empowerment

    Conference.  This is taking place on Friday, March 26, from 1:30 p.m.

    to 5:00 p.m., virtually via Zoom.  Student Life is co-hosting with

    the Center for International Education and Global Engagement and the

    Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Office.  The Sixth Annual Women's

    Empowerment Conference around the theme of Rise Up.  There will be a

    number of guest speakers and sessions offered by Pima Community

    College staff, faculty, and student leaders around our theme of Rise

    Up, resilience, intersectionality, support, equity, unify and

    purpose.

         They will also be hosting an Aztec Gold advanced leadership

    program March 10 through March 28.  The Aztec Gold Program is an

    advanced leadership program for the Pima Community College students

    who want to develop a deeper understanding of leadership theory and

    practice.

         The program will include workshops focused on understanding

    leadership theory and a group civic engagement project to put

    leadership theory into practice.  Students who complete the program

    will receive a completion certificate and a gold cord to wear at the

    PCC commencement.

         For Virtual First Year Experience, they have these upcoming

    events.  There is Career Cafe on March 9 from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00

    p.m., and PWAP March 3, 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m., Workforce and

    continuing education.  Faces of FYE March 19 at 1:30 and Early Book

    Purchases Program.  And then the Money Matters March 11, noon to 1:30





    p.m. which is Tax Tips.

         For the Virtual Student Senate, Pima Aztec Student Senate has

    finalized their yearly project.  We are going to be working on a

    community safety project and have a day dedicated for domestic

    violence awareness and another day for sexual assault awareness.  We

    are hoping to invite the Pima Community Police to help with that and

    tribute as a community member.

         The Student Senate will also participate in live Q&A session to

    answer any questions to potential senate candidates for the 2021/2022

    school year.  We also assisted in a club fair in February.

         Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much for your report.

         Next is adjunct faculty report with Sean Mendoza.  Is Mr. Mendoza

    with us?

         >> Chair Clinco, Chancellor Lambert, members of the board,

    honored guests.  This last fall the adjunct faculty met with college

    administration on topics important to our employee group.  With

    support from the provost and a team led by Kate Schmidt, we are

    working collaboratively to address three important issues.  They are

    compensation for current and future training, communication for clear

    deadlines for canceled classes, and greater transparency in the

    selection process for teaching classes.

         This team anticipates completing its work by the end of the

    spring semester, and I look forward to delivering the efforts of the

    team at that time.





         Lastly, with 10% of Arizonans receiving two vaccine doses and a

    downward trend of COVID infections and deaths, many of us are

    starting to see the light at the end of the pandemic tunnel.  But we

    aren't there yet.  Given this, I would ask that the college and

    community continue its COVID mitigation strategies, college-wide

    e-mail updates, and opportunities for online meetings with

    administration provided by the chancellor and provost.

         Thank you for your time, please wear a mask, and continue to

    social distance.  This ends my report for the board.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Mr. Mendoza.  Thank

    you for that reminder about best practices for mitigating the

    pandemic.

         The next report is our staff report from Michael Lopez.

    Mr. Lopez?  You have five minutes.

         >> Hello.  Let me get to where I need to get.

         Chairman Clinco, Chancellor Lambert, Governing Board members,

    colleagues and guests.  I am the Governing Board representative, Mike

    Lopez.  Our current staff council officers are Gloria Coronado,

    chairperson.  John Wesley, vice-chair.  Diane Miller, past chair.

    Manny Carillo, communications officer.  Fatima Wilson, treasurer.

    And Susana Armenta, roll keeper.

         Our last staff council meeting was on February 5 through Google

    Meets on a Friday at 8:30.  We had 32 Pima personnel attend,

    including 19 voting members.  Mr. Jonathan Brownly presented to the

    staff council on the Google Drive file stream.  Phase 3 of testing





    for Google Drive file stream is complete.

         Questions were asked and answered on how to create a file drive.

    Staff council members feel that the Google Drive file stream will be

    beneficial in many ways and in many circumstances.

         The provost's report was presented by Kate Schmidt.  Discussed

    various activities, recognitions, and acknowledgements.  Black

    History Month events.  Diversity, equity, and inclusion, DEI events.

    The Week of Racial Healing, February 15 through the 18th.  Many staff

    have worked on planning and the presentation of the Week of Racial

    Healing events, along with supporting and promoting Black History

    Month events.

         A question was asked by staff regarding vaccines, insurance for

    students, and staff expressed some COVID concerns regarding

    re-entering normal campus settings.

         Human resources and finance update was presented by David Bea.

    Focused mostly on class compensation and the CARES and CRRSA Acts.

         Staff council bylaws subcommittee submitted changes of the bylaws

    to general counsel for review and recommendations.  Bylaws changes

    focus on elections and appropriate representation to the staff

    council from various district staff, departments and areas, ensuring

    proper representation.

         This committee is headed by John Wesley, Gloria Coronado and

    Fatima Wilson.  The bylaw changes were decided with consideration

    from other staff council, officers, and members prior to submission

    to the general counsel.  Staff council election dates to be





    considered and announced after general counsel review of staff

    council bylaws.

         That concludes my report.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Mr. Lopez.  We

    appreciate it.

         Next we have faculty report with Brooke Anderson.

         >> BROOKE ANDERSON:  Good evening, everybody.  Hello.  Chairman

    Clinco, board members, fellow colleagues and guests.

         I want to just highlight a couple of information items.  The

    deans and department heads continue to work hard on creating a

    flexible fall schedule that includes in-person, online, and virtual

    options for students.  While faculty still have concerns about

    returning to in-person teaching, many of us are excited to return to

    our campuses and our students.

         Senators have been providing input on re-entry plans in various

    meetings across the college, and senate president, Josie Milliken,

    has scheduled a second Faculty Senate student panel for senate's

    April 2 meeting.  We would love for the board members to attend and

    hear what the students have to say.

         Regarding AP 1.01.03, thank you, Jeff, for delaying its posting

    and planning to talk with concerned faculty, and thank you, Chairman

    Clinco, for requesting an update on the situation in the next

    meeting.  Like Makyla said, faculty see the comment on the

    information item that states "a multi-departmental collaborative

    drafting and editing process was employed to produce the proposed AP"





    as misrepresenting what took place.  Faculty think this AP needs more

    revision before it's ready to move on to the next steps in the

    process.

         As for faculty notable accomplishments, as you can see on the

    report, there are too many to share in five minutes.  So I'm

    highlighting just a few.

         In sciences, you can see there are a number of impressive grants.

    Jennifer Katcher, biology faculty and PI, has an NSF HIS grant for

    course undergraduate research experiences.  Students collect and

    analyze DNA from bees.

         In the fall, eight students in two virtual synchronous classes

    interpreted DNA bar coding results for their assigned bees.  Data for

    all bees including DNA bar codes were published in the Bar Code of

    Life Database and each student's name is published along with their

    bee's record.

         Yvonne Sandoval, math faculty, Jorge Pellos Chavez, physics

    faculty, Jennifer Katcher, biology faculty, and Jim Washburn,

    part-time geography faculty, are mentors for NSF STEM PCCU Arizona

    Bridge Grant this academic year.  Faculty mentors are supporting 26

    Pima students who have received scholarships and will be transferring

    to U Arizona in the fall.

         Dennis Just, astronomy, physics department head and co-PI with U

    Arizona is overseeing a NASA STEM asteroid grant.  This currently

    involves six PCC students who registered for Dr. Just's physics 196

    independent study.  These students are all interested in doing





    aerospace robotics and planetary science research with U Arizona

    faculty and have attended a virtual sci-tech conference that featured

    a number of talks focused on space.

         In communication, the Aztec Press has become the Digital

    Publication Pima Post.  The Post will feature a revamped website and

    maintain its focus on Pima and local events that impact the PCC

    community.  This change allows deadlines to be more fluid and editors

    to post news as it happens.

         To increase new ESL student enrollment, ESL faculty have created

    a comprehensive, innovative, and streamlined experience for newly

    enrolled ESL students and have improved the visibility of PCC's ESL

    courses to nonnative English speakers in the Tucson community.

         They have added a question on PCC's application that identifies

    ESL students more strategically, created an ESL advising support team

    and dedicated e-mail address for all ESL inquiries, and new presence

    on Pima's website features programs, information, helpful contacts,

    and student testimonials by our ESL ambassadors.

         They have recorded a new student orientation video tailored

    specifically to the needs of ESL students.  Created a virtual welcome

    session to help new ESL students develop a sense of belief,

    belonging, and support as they pursue their studies at Pima.  And

    this year they are developing a certificate of language proficiency

    and working to increase visibility for ESL through targeted marketing

    and community outreach.

         Last semester, under the leadership of English faculty member and





    first-year writing coordinator Elliott C, 17 Pima faculty and staff

    across the college joined forces toward the development of a

    liberatory writing across the curriculum program.  This program is

    housed in the English department and seeks to support and empower

    student writers in all disciplines through liberatory write to learn

    curriculum to promote and encourage multi-disciplinary queer, Black,

    indigenous, Asian, and borderland writing in research methodologies

    to increase social justice-oriented collaboration between Pima's

    disciplines and programs.

         Initial work on a multi-year proposal is underway, beginning with

    student and college employee outreach, data collection and

    representation at the International Writing Across the Curriculum

    Conference and Summer Institute.  A proposal and budget request for

    this program was submitted to the provost in January, and the IWAC

    committee is hoping to receive a response soon so this work can start

    in the fall.

         Finally, to highlight a couple of things in applied technology,

    the automotive department has run all 16 auto classes in person for

    24 weeks without a single case of COVID-19 exposure.  They retained

    93% of their enrollment numbers this spring, as well.

         Automated industrial technology faculty are completing training

    so they can offer student certification in collaborative robotics.

    This team is incorporating Industry 4.0 equipment into the lab and

    added close to 100 students through dual enrollment.

         And finally, BCT faculty and students are working with Habitat





    For Humanity to build a home for a Tucson family.

         Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you, Ms. Anderson, for that

    outstanding presentation.  I also just want to thank and recognize

    all of the incredible work that the faculty and staff are doing.

    Thank you for always bringing the work of the faculty to our

    attention.

         Again, a huge shoutout to Jennifer Katcher for her work bringing

    in another NSF HIS grant.  I think she got the first one in our

    college's history, and it's very inspiring to hear about the work

    she's doing.

         If you could please send invitations, if you'd like the board to

    attend events, please send them to the chancellor's office for

    distribution.

         Finally our administrative report with Jeff Thies.  Jeff, you

    have five minutes.

         >> Thank you.  Good evening, everyone.  Chairperson Clinco,

    members of the board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues, students,

    guests.  I'm Jeff Thies, dean of college readiness and student

    success and your administrative board representative.

         There are four topics I want to hit on quickly in our report.

    Workforce development, which we heard a lot from earlier, from Ian.

    I will make sure we focus on those highlights from workforce that

    were not already covered.

         A quick view in equitable outcomes data table and graph.





    Cross-functional project that multiple administrators have been

    working on.  And then lastly, provide kudos to a colleague and the

    dean of mathematics at the college.

         First, with workforce development, in the apprenticeship area,

    Pima Community College was the first community college to become a

    registered apprenticeship sponsor and currently has five approved

    occupations on its sponsorship list.  With our successful work with

    the American Association of Community Colleges EECA grant, Denise

    Kingman and Adrian Joan have been asked to present to peer

    institutions.  Denise has been asked to join the Arizona

    Apprenticeship Advisory Committee as the community college

    representative for the work.  Great work, Denise.

         We have also worked with the Pascua Yaqui tribe and NACTEP to

    register a tribal member and their employer for a registered

    apprenticeship program.

         Next from workforce, the paramedics program is rolling out VR,

    virtual reality, patients for virtual reality paramedics training.

    The system allows students to practice patient scenarios designed and

    assessed by Pima instructional staff in a fully immersive virtual

    reality environment.

         Last from workforce, the Pascua Yaqui partnership, Brian Stewart,

    campus VP at Northwest is liaison to the Pascua Yaqui tribe and has

    led a series of inclusive, collaborative IGA planning and strategy

    meetings with both college and tribal partners, actively engaging in

    the planning.





         The Pima team includes the workforce development dean, Amanda

    Abens, contracts and additional stakeholders as needed.  The college

    continues to expand the important partnership with the Pascua Yaqui

    tribe with a focus on using data to increase student access,

    progression, and success.

         The partnership is broad and includes dual enrollment, language

    and cultural courses, student support extension services, and a

    variety of workforce and CTE offerings.

         Moving on to a quick snapshot with some data, evidence-based,

    decision-making institution, we always want to look at how we are

    doing with equitable student outcomes.  This graph aggregates the

    academic year, so includes fall, spring, summer, and the 09 terms

    along with the 40 terms, 41, 42, 43, and 44.

         In this particular graph you can see the American Indian, Alaskan

    Native, and Black African American populations, those are defined by

    IPEDS, earned passing grades at a lower percentage than the aggregate

    over the last three full academic years.  Similar to what is

    presented in the red for 2019/'20.  Both have an equity gap

    consistently below the standard error of three percentage points.

         Latinx students' core success rates fluctuate between being

    within that standard error and just outside, but the consistency of

    underperforming compared to the aggregate is true across all three

    years.

         Of the 136,000 grade records in 1920 [sic], we did see a spike in

    incompletes up to about just over 5,000.  That was due primarily to





    the incomplete audit that we provided as part of the pandemic shift

    last spring.

         Once these grades are resolved, the overall success rate should

    shift.  That's been the third piece here, cross-functional project.

    Incomplete audits has been something that a group of administrators

    have been working on under the leadership of Bruce Moses, starting

    last December.  Incomplete audits were provided in spring 2020 as a

    response to the transition of in-person to online courses.

         The incomplete policy has two primary components that are

    considered for a one-time adjustment.  One of those considerations is

    the deadline of an automatic grade change to an F and the other is

    the one-year deadline when incompletes have to be completed.

         A decision to adjust the remaining I's to a W based on the

    temporary redefinition once the one-year term expires was made in

    January, so that means we have worked feverishly with deans and

    department heads and faculty to make sure that any audits that

    students have taken since last spring are being converted over to

    grades before the registrar takes over with that final step at the

    end.

         So that's an ongoing project to clean up the incomplete audit

    options that were provided last spring before the term of that

    incomplete disappears.

         And lastly, Nina Corson, dean of mathematics, gave a keynote at

    the statewide ArizMATYC Conference last Friday.  I was fortunate to

    attend.  Nina did an incredible job presenting to the faculty that





    are in that association on the future of mathematics and how math

    faculty can be engaged with student success initiatives on their

    campus.

         She was actively engaged, the group that was attending, so it was

    a great event all together and just wanted to give Nina some kudos

    for that.

         That ends my report.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, Mr. These.  Moving on

    to the next item, chancellor's report.  Chancellor Lambert?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Yes, good evening, everybody.  First I'd

    like to say thank you to the faculty and the staff and

    administration.  As you can hear tonight, just so many great things

    happening at the college.  It's happening because of all of you and

    all of us working together, focused on the vision that we have set

    forth to be one of the premier community colleges in the country.

         That cannot happen without all of us coming together and focusing

    on that grand vision.  So thank you.

         Also, I'm just so excited that we can start to see that light at

    the end of the tunnel.  As you know, here in the State of Arizona,

    over 2,300,000, nearly, vaccinations have been administered and so at

    this pace, things should pretty much look very, very different when

    we get into the summer and going into the fall.

         Now, as we, and you'll hear more at the All College meeting on

    Friday, but I'm very hopeful that we can come back to the fall into a

    new normal environment that will not look like the environment we





    were in before we went into the pandemic.  It's going to be more

    enhanced, more improved, also with attention always to safety.

         I'm just so excited that we are getting there.  But we've got to

    still be patient.  We've got to be vigilant.  We need to continue to

    follow protocols and we will stick to that.  We will not do something

    that's inconsistent with the CDC and with the Pima Health

    Department's direction and guidance.

         I just want to acknowledge Bill and his team, because they have

    been ever-vigilant around these safety protocols, working with David

    Dori and the campus folks just to make sure everything runs smoothly.

    We are just so pleased.

         Thank you, Brooke, for highlighting the auto department, because

    we have a lot of auto departments.  So many of our departments that

    have been going here on the ground have done very, very well to keep

    the environment safe for everybody.

         Also, Bill informed me tonight that we have taken ownership of

    the auto building, so we are so excited that we can now begin the

    process, transitioning from the current facility into that beautiful

    new facility and have things ready hopefully by the fall for

    instruction and that great, great new facility.

         Also, a number of us participated in the 21-Day Racial Equity

    Challenge, and just some key highlights from that.  If you haven't

    had a chance to participate, I would highly encourage anyone to do

    that.  If board members are interested in it, just let Andrea know,

    and we'll get you connected with the 21-Day Racial Equity Challenge.





         Tone policing, intersectionality, defunding the police,

    microaggressions and so many other themes were covered as part of

    that process.  Interestingly enough, we ended the 21-day challenge

    with Dr. Eddie Moore speaking to all of us who participated in this

    first round, and it turns out Dr. Moore and I have a connection back

    to the Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington.  In fact, one

    of the key individuals at the college, he credits him for saving his

    life.  That's a powerful statement to be made by anybody.  So thank

    you to Dr. Moore.

         I want to thank Hilda Ladner and Dr. Daisy Pitel Rodriguez who

    helped really pull that together for us.

         Also, we have received our CRRSA funds.  I just want to thank the

    board for your insight and input and thank Norma and her team for

    putting together a different framework for how we would decide which

    level and dollar amounts and how many students we would disburse

    funds to.

         It's important to recognize that this set of funds came with an

    expanded definition of who could be covered, so that was a positive

    thing.  Unfortunately, the federal government is still not

    recognizing DACA students or international students for eligibility,

    but we will do our best to reach as many of our students who are

    eligible.

         We are hoping that we can start disbursing the funds as early as

    Monday of next week.  Again, just very excited for the great work

    that everyone has done in this area.





         I want to thank the board for participating in the ACCT

    legislative summit.  It was a lot different this year, and, Cat, we

    brought you into a different environment, but thank you for

    participating.

         Next year when we go, you'll get to really feel just the

    significance of the event when you're there with thousands of

    trustees from across the country really making a difference on

    Capitol Hill.

         I also want to thank the students.  Our students that we had,

    like each year, just amazing ambassadors for the college.  We should

    all be proud of the difference we are making in their lives, and

    their ability to articulate their experiences is just phenomenal.

         Also, I'll just touch on a few things we addressed in that

    legislative summit.  We talked about the Dream Act and supporting the

    Dream Act.  We thanked the lawmakers and their staff for the support

    of the CARES Act and CRRSA.

         We really advocated for the reauthorization of the Higher

    Education Act and the reauthorization of the Workforce Investment

    Opportunity Act.  All of these things are major pieces of legislation

    that are important to us.

         This most recent stimulus will be signed by the president, 1.9

    trillion, and, yes, we will be receiving some additional resources as

    part of that 1.9.  We are also very excited about some new

    developments around infrastructure.  That should be probably the next

    wave of investment coming from the federal government, with that





    investment into job training, et cetera.

         Also, I just want to say kudos to Brian Stewart and to Serena P

    for leading the teams from the Pascua Yaqui tribe and from the

    college to come to a next-level agreement.  We are so excited about

    that.  Thank you both and your teams for the great work that you did.

         I just want to again thank Hilda and Daisy for their work around

    diversity, equity, inclusion for the college, and for really putting

    together tonight's Antihate, Asian Hate Proclamation, thank you for

    doing that and working with Jeff to make sure that it's all cleaned

    up and ready to go.

         I would invite the board, if you like, please let Andrea know, if

    you would like to take a 3D virtual reality tour of that amazing

    100,000 square foot advanced manufacturing center.  I had the

    opportunity to take that tour, and it is phenomenal.  You also get to

    experience the power of virtual reality, augmented reality, and

    you're going to see more and more of that being integrated into the

    work we do here at the college both from an instructional standpoint

    but also from an employee day-to-day work standpoint.

         In this model you're going to see how taking what we are doing on

    the facilities side to build new facilities and be able to see it

    before you actually get to go in it.  It's an amazing experience.

    We'd love for you to come take advantage of that opportunity.

         Special thanks to my team.  We could not do what we do at the

    college without having a strong administration and to provide the

    overall leadership and guidance for the direction we are going in.





    As you hear, the great work happening on the instructional side.  So

    thank you to our provost and thank you on the student services side

    to our president of campuses.  Again, we are just seeing so many

    tremendous, positive things.  Let's keep focused on the positive

    because we are going to make a major difference for this community.

         Thank you, all.  I'm done.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much, and thank you,

    Chancellor Lambert, for all of the work you're doing, you know, in

    your continual vision and leadership for this institution.  We really

    value it.  Thank you.

         Next are our information items, item 3.1 through 3.11.

    Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the information items, please.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

         The information items that were included with the board materials

    for this meeting are the December 2020 financial statements.

    Employment information listing one new hire and a few retirements and

    separations.  Faculty hiring, that's the hiring of one new regular

    faculty member for the nursing program.  A list of several

    individuals who have been qualified to teach as adjunct faculty at

    Pima Community College.

         The list of administrators who will be receiving contracts for

    the '21/'22 fiscal year -- that's a typo in the agenda item.  It's

    actually for the '21/'22 fiscal year.  Faculty appointments, also for

    the regular faculty appointments, that's also for the fiscal year

    '21/'22 time frame.





         Two administrative procedure changes, AP 1.01.03 which relates to

    the development of standard operating procedures.  As you heard, we

    will delay posting the financial version until we have some further

    conversation.

         Then there is also AP 3.25.03 relating to the college curriculum

    council, existing AP that's been revised.

         Next we have the 2021 through '22 academic calendar.  Then we

    have the information regarding the employee dental insurance coverage

    that would be available during the fiscal year '21 to '22 cycle.

         A description of the employee life insurance benefit that will be

    available during the fiscal year '21/'22 cycle.  And finally

    highlighting, doing a highlighting of different grant programs around

    the college.  This particular one relates to a grant that the college

    received for English language training during the fiscal year 2021

    cycle and that amount is in excess of $347,000.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Thank you very much.  Next we have

    the consent agenda items.  Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the consent

    items.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Thank you, Mr. Chair.  Items on the consent

    agenda for this evening are the minutes for the February 3, 2021

    executive session meeting.  The February 3, 2021 regular meeting.

    The February 15 study session.

         Next we have a list of proposed sabbatical approvals for fall

    2021 and '22.  Next we have a proposed contract, amendment to a

    contract with Allusion (phonetic) Company for e-invoicing and





    e-procurement services.  The proposed total cost if we went through

    the entire five-year extensions would not exceed $565,465.

         Next we have a proposed up to two-year extension for the current

    contract with Bracy Tucker Brown for federal lobbying services for an

    amount not expected to exceed $168,000.

         We have a proposed amendment to the contract for services we have

    with the SmithGroup for the review of the facilities and educational

    master plans of a slight adjustment in the scope of work which would

    result in an increased cost of $15,125.

         Next we have requested approval for the employee medical benefits

    and pharmaceutical benefits for fiscal year '21-2022.  The total

    costs for that will be in the budget to be presented to the board.

         Next we have a proposal to adopt a public safety personnel

    retirement system pension funding policy at an annual cost of $1.3

    million for the next five years which would improve the funding ratio

    for that pension plan.

         Next we have a request for approval of the long-term disability

    plan which would increase the amount of benefits available to

    employees by decreasing the waiting period before which they are able

    to receive disability benefits.

         Next we have a request for approval of a new assistant vice

    chancellor for curriculum and academic quality improvement position

    which represents the consolidation of two existing administrator

    positions.

         Finally we have the proposed intergovernmental agreement with the





    Pascua Yaqui tribe for the provision of a variety of educational

    programs.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a motion to approve the consent

    agenda?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  I'd like to table one of the items.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Well, we'd have to pull the item and

    discuss it separately.  So which item?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  The one for the new position that's going

    to replace the two.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  So we can discuss that item separately.

    So that item, just to be clear, that's item 4.11.

         Okay.  So do I have a motion to adopt the consent agenda minus

    4.11?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a second?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Second.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Could you to a roll call vote, please?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Sure.  Hold on one second.

         Catherine Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Demion Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Maria Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Meredith Hay?





         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Luis Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  The motion carries unanimously.

         Next we will take item 5.1.  Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the

    item?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Excuse me, do you want to cover 4.11, the

    one consent agenda item that got pulled first?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I figured we could just do that at the

    end, but...

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Very well.  I wanted to make sure we didn't

    forget that.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I have it on my list.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  All right.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Read the item, please.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Item 5.1, proposed amendment to the bylaws.

    The recommendation is the chancellor recommends that the Governing

    Board consider a proposal to amend board bylaw article 4.  The

    proposed language is attached to the board materials.

         So if a board member would like to make the motion, we can have

    discussion and see whether there are amendments or other changes

    requested.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Mr. Silvyn, I would make the motion that

    we table this item and address it as part of our annual three-year

    review which is scheduled to start May/April of this year.  So that's





    the motion.

         Is there a second?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Second.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any discussion?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.  So is there a way to appeal your

    comment?  I don't know.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  There is a motion on the floor.

    Mr. Silvyn?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  So there has been a motion to table.  So now

    there is a time for discussion.  So if there are questions or

    individual board members have different views, there is certainly

    opportunity to express them.

         Then the question is -- then the board would vote.  If the motion

    to table passes, then that would end discussion of this proposal for

    the time being until it's put on a future meeting.  If the motion

    fails, then there is no motion on the table and a board member is

    free to make a different motion regarding the proposal.

         Does that answer your question sufficiently?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  No.  I don't understand it.  So you're

    saying you're going to table, he wants to table the motion, so is

    there a discussion or is there not a discussion?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  There is a discussion.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes, I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.  There

    can be a discussion, and then the board would vote on the motion to

    table, and then depending on whatever happens with that, then we





    would take the next steps.

         One other thing I should mention is if someone wants to offer a

    different time frame for tabling the motion, that would be also an

    appropriate request at this time.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  We have a discussion.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  I just have one question for

    discussion, and that is are we voting either to vote now or to table

    specifically to change the bylaw to have the terms, one-year terms,

    and are we voting on separately to make that effective now or

    effective at the next January meeting?  So is it all combined?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  This was just a combined motion.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Right.  So the motion on the table right now

    is only the question of is the board going to consider the proposal

    tonight or are you tabling it to the future meeting after the review

    process as Mr. Clinco has proposed?  So that's the question now.

         If the board decision is not to table and to consider the issue

    tonight, then you have, yes, two questions in front of you, really.

    One is to amend the board bylaw as proposed and the second is when to

    make it effective.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Okay.  So --

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Part of the discussion, if I may, Jeff,

    could you tell us a little bit about the proposed structure of what

    the three-year review will look like or the full bylaw review?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Sure.  Assuming we do something similar to

    what happened three years ago, we staff, with assistance of outside





    counsel, would go through the entire bylaws with the board.  It would

    probably take a series of study sessions to do that.

         The outcome of that would likely be that the board might propose

    multiple changes to different sections of the bylaws, and at the

    conclusion of that process, depending on the will of the board, we

    could vote on the entire package of changes or we could do them

    article by article.

         But the point of that process is to go through the entire bylaws

    in a completely comprehensive way from the very beginning to the very

    end and see what changes, if any, the board thinks need to be made to

    improve them.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  My concern is that the way that the

    bylaw is stated right now is that it goes against state statute,

    okay?  Now, so what Demion is proposing is that we table it until we

    go through the bylaw reviews; is that correct?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  That's what you're proposing right

    now?  And I'm saying that we need to have a discussion to come into

    compliance with the state statute.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Mr. Silvyn, do you believe that we are out

    of compliance with state statute regarding this?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  No.  I don't believe that the current bylaws

    providing for a two-year term for an officer chair, I believe that is

    consistent with state law, is not a violation of state law.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Well, according to Maricopa, they voted to





    change this for that very reason because they wanted to come to

    compliance.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  So with all due respect, there were some

    individuals who, like yourself, have that opinion.  That was not a

    universal decision.  They voted to change the bylaws essentially to

    just resolve the argument and no longer have it be an issue.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  So then if we're going to table, if

    the vote is to table this amendment or this change in bylaw, then I'm

    going to request a special hearing, a special meeting to discuss

    this.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  I would like to also -- I mean, this is

    still discussion, so the question at hand needs to be addressed and

    needs to be answered satisfactorily by all board members, and that is

    is it up for opinion or is it up to interpretation on what the

    statute actually reads?

         I think we all need to be comfortable that it's cut and dried and

    that's exactly how the statute reads.  I think that discussion needs

    to happen.  It could be at the next board meeting, could be during

    the bylaws review, but I don't think we can make a decision today

    until we get a definitive answer on the interpretation of the

    statute.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Mr. Silvyn?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Well, I guess my question is do you have a

    specific proposal to how to do that?  I'm happy to write up my

    analysis and explain why I think the current bylaws are consistent





    with the state law.  That might certainly be a start.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  We could also, for consideration, we could

    ask for an opinion from the attorney general.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  And I'm okay with that.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  So the way to do that probably is to combine

    what I just suggested with what has just been suggested, what I can

    do is write up an analysis and submit it to the office of the

    attorney general and ask them to review the opinion and opine whether

    they agree with it or whether they believe it should be modified.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Fine.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  That would be a condition of the

    tabling --

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  -- is what I'm hearing as a potential

    amendment.  I would offer an amendment to the motion to that effect

    that we would table the item.  Mr. Silvyn will prepare -- looks like

    Mr. Gonzales has a question, as well, but let me just sort of clarify

    what the amendment would be, and then we have to check to make sure

    the seconder is comfortable with that.

         We would table the item, Mr. Silvyn will prepare an opinion,

    he'll send it to the attorney general for comment.  Then we will get

    that back.  Then by that time this will probably be in the review of

    the three-cycle, three-year review which will start really in May.

    It seems like it's sort of coalescing at the same time.

         Dr. Hay, is that suitable as the seconder?





         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Additional discussion.  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Clarification, Mr. Silvyn.  In order to

    table this, what we table is basically the chair terms, which is two

    year right now currently, and we want to change it to one year.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  So let's see if I can try and provide some

    clarity.  So the bylaws currently provide that the chair and the

    vice-chair serve two-year terms.  There has been a request that that

    be changed so that it be a one-year term instead of a two-year term.

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Exactly.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes.  Okay, good.  So we're clear about

    that.

         The motion before the board for consideration and vote is whether

    to essentially delay consideration of that change until May, and in

    the meantime that I would be directed to prepare an analysis of

    whether the two-year term complies with state law and submit that to

    the Arizona Attorney General for its opinion so that that information

    would be available to the board as part of the process of reviewing

    the bylaws to further inform your discussion and decision about

    whether to change the term for the officers.

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Okay.  My understanding at this real time

    right now, I thought we were still in discussion.  I know that

    Mr. Demion mentioned a motion but hasn't been seconded yet, so

    discussion, I still feel that it should be voted on reference to the

    initial, which is the changes of the terms from two year to one year,





    correct?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Mr. Gonzales, we actually do have a

    second.  Dr. Hay seconded the motion to table.  So we have a motion

    on the table.  We have amended the motion to include the review, and

    that we would -- actually, Jeff, I would think once we get the

    review, comment back from the attorney general, we would then add

    this back onto the regular agenda.  We wouldn't just wait arbitrarily

    until May?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Right.  We can certainly adjust the schedule

    depending upon when we get feedback from the Arizona Attorney

    General.  I just can't predict exactly how long that's going to take.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  That is the motion that we have on the

    table.

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Okay.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there any additional discussion?  Okay.

    Hearing none, Mr. Silvyn, could you read the roll?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes.  I would be glad to, Mr. Chair.

    Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  No.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.





         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  No.  Because I know the last time it was

    changed we had set precedence of one year, and I say no.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  So the motion passes 3-2 with Board

    Member Garcia and Board Member Gonzales dissenting.

         Okay.  The next item on the agenda is the Proclamation to

    Denounce Anti-Asian Violence.  Mr. Silvyn, could you please read the

    recommendation and the proclamation?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes, Mr. Chair, be glad to.

         The chancellor recommends that the Governing Board issue a

    proclamation regarding the rise in anti-Asian violence.  The specific

    language of the resolution is as follows.  Whereas the United States

    of America has lost more than 500,000 individuals due to COVID-19,

    and since the beginning of the pandemic there have been over 3,000

    incidents of violence against Asian Pacific Islander Desi American.

         Whereas anti-Asian sentiment in the United States has continued

    since the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, including racially motivated

    attacks on people of Asian Pacific Islander Desi American dissent.

         Whereas February 19 is the day of remembrance for Executive Order

    9066 which called for the internment of Japanese Americans in 1942

    further disarming 120,000 U.S. citizens of their 1st through 6th

    Amendment rights.

         Whereas Arizona was one of the states where such internment camps

    were located, including the nearby Gordon Hirbayashi location at the

    base of Mount Lemmon.





         Whereas a Tucson church largely attended by people of Asian

    heritage was vandalized, and whereas many Asian Pacific Islander and

    Desi Americans continue to face fear of verbal abuse, female

    fetishization, injury or death while attending school, going to the

    grocery store, getting a COVID-19 vaccine, or simply taking a walk.

         Whereas President Biden issued an executive order on January 26,

    2021, to combat xenophobia against Asian Americans, especially in

    light of the pandemic, and urge all leaders to actively commit to an

    act D Order.

         Whereas the Governing Board supports Pima Community College's

    unwavering commitment to social justice through policies and

    practices that further diversity, equity, inclusion in our

    classrooms, offices, and throughout the campus community, for these

    policies and practices move the college forward and compel us to

    demand better.

         Whereas the Governing Board applauds and endorses college efforts

    to proactively create curriculum and extracurricular activities that

    give our students the opportunity to hear a multitude of voices,

    discuss and debate critical issues of social justice.

         Whereas the Governing Board recognizes the long-standing Asian

    American sentiment that exists in our nation and is committed to

    acting deliberately to create a safe and inclusive learning

    environment while also offering more programs, initiatives, and

    efforts to expand the understanding of Asian Pacific Islander Desi

    Americans in the United States.





         Be it resolved the college values and embraces broadening its

    curriculum to include Asian Pacific American study courses

    acknowledging the necessity of creating academic opportunities to

    learn about a population that has inhabited the United States since

    the 1800s.

         Further, the Governing Board recommits itself to support faculty,

    staff, and administration in their stalwart pursuit of quality higher

    education for all who seek it in our community knowing that education

    empowers a citizenry that can respond effectively to the challenges

    that confront them and is the most powerful tool for changing the

    world.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Do I have a motion to adopt the

    proclamation?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  So moved.

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  I move we adopt.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Sorry, Cat.  I second.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  I hear Board Member Ripley made the

    motion, seconded by Dr. Hay.

         Mr. Silvyn, if you could do the roll call vote?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes.  Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.





         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  The motion passes unanimously.

         Next is board policy changes final reading 5.3.  Mr. Silvyn, if

    you could read the recommendation?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  The chancellor recommends that the Governing

    Board approve the recommended changes to board policy 4.01, financial

    controls and institutional budget, and board policy 4.07, cash

    reserves.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a motion to adopt the

    recommendation?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  So moved.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a second?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Second.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Seconded by Ms. Ripley.  Discussion?  Is

    there any discussion on the item or do we want to hear a presentation

    and details about...

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Presentation.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  So I have Dr. Dave Bea on, and he will be

    glad to take us through both of these BPs.  Dave?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  Good evening, Chairperson Clinco, members of





    the board, Chancellor Lambert, colleagues and guests.

         As was just mentioned, there are two board policy changes up for

    recommendation for the board tonight.  Board policy 4.01 is really

    just a moderate change to that policy, financial controls and

    institutional budget policy.  What it does is clarify a little bit of

    the language, adds the word "procedures" to one of the sections,

    procedures, and some other minor changes.

         Then there is a section that adds in that to be financially

    prudent and responsible to also financially plan for financial

    obligations and commitments including long-term liabilities, bond

    covenants, and these are formal obligations that we have.

         So what it's just stipulating is that just as part of the

    standard practice with our financial procedures that we take those

    into consideration when we are going into the budget.

         Just as an example of that, the board passed the Public Safety

    Retirement System change to address some of the unfunded liability in

    that program.  That's the kind of thing and in fact that's where the

    liability language came from was folding in the concept from that.

    So that's the first one.

         The second one is revision of the cash reserves policy, and what

    it really is intended to do is create a target threshold for our

    reserves so we have sort of a line in the sand, if you will, for how

    much we should have on hand to maintain healthy practices from a

    financial standpoint so that we don't overobligate ourselves

    financially, that we have good reserves.  Think of the reserves like





    that would be the money that we have in the bank for a rainy day or

    for a problem.

         And we are held accountable to that in a couple of different

    ways.  One is the HLC has financial metrics that we have to provide

    to them on an annual basis that show that we are being managed

    financially responsibly, and then the second one is credit rating

    agency, look at what our reserves that we have on hand.

         If the institution ever had a reserve that dropped below a

    healthy level, that would result in negative credit ratings, we would

    have problems borrowing money at the rates that we presently have.

         What this policy change does is set a target threshold which is

    essentially to ensure that there are reserves on hand when we are

    developing the budget and setting a course for the year that is 75%

    of the prior year's designated and general fund budget.  Essentially

    what that means is we would be able to fund nine months of operations

    if revenues just ceased, and it further gets into the detail of

    within those 75% or the nine months' worth of reserves that we have

    on hand that they will be invested -- 10% of that will be set aside

    in cash and cash equivalents, so if there is a real clear emergency

    that we have highly liquid funds available.  Again, that's just a

    moderate change from where our current practice is, I would say,

    insignificant change from what our current practice is.

         And then the rest is put into short-term and long-term

    investments and the finance audit committee routinely gets reports on

    how those funds are invested, and there are clear guidelines set out





    in terms of what the particular investments we're able to put the

    money into.

         And then it gets into the target threshold.  What it does is that

    if those reserves fall below that 75% threshold, what it would

    trigger is that in our annual budget process, we would be coming to

    the board and we would be providing a plan for how to get back up if

    it falls below what -- we will come up with a plan for how to get

    back up to that 75% threshold.

         Just for context right now, we are closer to the 98 and 95%

    level, so this isn't something that's going to trigger anything

    immediately.  But what it does that's going to be I think really

    helpful for the board is when we think about reinvesting in our

    long-term, in our capital needs, things like adding the Allied Health

    building which we have talked about and the board has given direction

    on moving forward with that building, is that there will be sort of a

    marker that we can look at and say, okay, we have obligated this

    much, we are still in a good healthy place in terms of that 75%

    threshold.

         So it's really to give the board a marker and will provide

    assurance that we are in a very, a financially healthy place in

    running things with very responsible reserves.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Are there questions for Dr. Bea?

    Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  So what is our present threshold?  Is it

    95%?





         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  We currently don't have a threshold.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  We don't.

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  We don't have that threshold that's equivalent

    to the 75%.  It is creating that threshold now.

         In the past, what I would say is it's been, in the last ten

    years, it's ranged from about 55% to where we are at now, which is

    closer to 90%.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  So one of the things that you

    mentioned was that we are looking at nine months to be able to pay

    off bills, correct?  A nine-month time period?

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  Right.  Of our operating expenses.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Of our operating expenses.

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  The money that would be invested, we would

    have sufficient reserves that if no additional revenues come in we

    could run operations for nine months.  That's not exactly what would

    happen in reality, but that's essentially what the target threshold

    would be.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Just to clarify, that's in like a

    catastrophic event, Pandemic 2, where we could have no classes and no

    Internet, we could still keep everyone employed and college running

    for nine months with the reserves?

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  Correct.

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Clinco, that's way

    beyond standard practice, that's fine, but it's usually 90 days,

    which is great, nine months, that's a long runway.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Are there any additional questions or

    concerns for Dr. Bea?

         Okay.  Are we ready...

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  I will also point out that this did go through

    finance audit committee, so they have endorsed the concepts and the

    thresholds that we are presenting.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  We have a motion to adopt.

         Mr. Silvyn, will you read the roll?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes.  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

         Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  The motion passes unanimously.  Our

    next item is 4.5, fiscal year 2022 tuition and fees budget

    components.

         Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the recommendation, please.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  The chancellor recommends the Governing

    Board set tuition and service fees for fiscal year 2022 maintaining





    current in-state resident and nonresident including summer and online

    tuition and service fee rates.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Do I have a motion to adopt the

    recommendation?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  So moved.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a second?  I will second it.

         Discussion?  Chancellor Lambert?  Do we have a overview of this?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Sure.  I'd be happy to just make a comment

    and then ask Dr. Dave Bea to weigh in.

         So we are, in short, we are not asking for tuition increase this

    year.  I don't know, Dave, if you want to elaborate on that?

         >> DR. DAVID BEA:  I'm not sure I could say it any more clearly

    or concisely as that.  And this is consistent with what we have been

    talking with the board about during study sessions and budget

    preparation, that in light of the passage of Proposition 481, with

    the additional revenues coming in from Prop 207, and particularly

    with the assistance coming from CRRSA and the impacts that we know on

    our community and what has happened in terms of the pandemic is that

    the recommendation is to keep tuition at the same level it's at this

    current year.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Any discussion?

         So I would just thank the administration for coming forward with

    this plan.  You know, I think the board has stated over and over our

    total and complete concern for the students of this college and our

    community.  We appreciate you coming forward with this





    recommendation.  At least I do.

         If there are no further comments, Mr. Silvyn, could you do a roll

    call vote?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Yes, Mr. Chair, glad to.  Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Motion passes unanimously.

         Our next item is 5.5, academic year 2021/2022 success support

    courses at no cost.  Mr. Silvyn, could you please read the

    recommendation?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  The chancellor recommends the Governing

    Board authorize the chancellor or designee to approve the following

    success support courses for academic year 2021 through 2022 at no

    cost for tuition or service fees.

         STU 100, STU 106, STU 107, STU 109, HRP 100, HON 101, Math 92LB,

    Math 92RQ and Math 97RQ.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Do I have a motion to adopt this

    recommendation?





         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  So moved.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Moved by Ms. Garcia.  Was there a second?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Second.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Seconded by Ms. Ripley.

         Do we need to have a discussion, or is it fairly clear what we

    are doing?  Okay.

         Looks like everyone is shaking their head.  We will move to the

    vote.  Mr. Silvyn?  If you could read the roll, please?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  The motion passes unanimously.

         Next is item 4.11, the new position of vice chancellor for

    curriculum and academic quality improvement.

         Do you want to start by reading the recommendation?

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Certainly, I'd be glad to, Mr. Chair.

         The chancellor recommends the Governing Board approve the new

    assistant vice chancellor for curriculum and academic quality





    improvement position which represents a consolidation of two

    administrator positions.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there a motion to approve the

    recommendation?  Then we will --

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Didn't I get that one tabled?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  No.  So currently we pulled it from the

    consent agenda, and now we're going to have a discussion about it.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  In order to have the discussion we need to

    make some sort of motion.  We have a motion that Dr. Hay has made but

    there hasn't been a second yet.  Is there a second?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  I'll second it.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  It's been seconded.  Now a discussion.

         Chancellor Lambert, do you want to talk us through this?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Yes.  So I'll share some background on this

    and then I'll probably have Jeff fill in some of the gaps.

    Unfortunately, our provost could not be here tonight, so this is

    being brought on behalf of our provost.

         So I'll take us back in time.  So when the college was going

    through all of the HLC challenges, we had to quickly put together

    some new positions to handle some key areas of the college where we

    had tremendous gaps, one having to do with academic quality and

    improvement.  We didn't have strong leadership overseeing our

    criterion for compliance with HLC.  We had multiple positions in





    curriculum.

         Over time we have reorganized the institution.  A lot of work has

    been done in those areas I just noted.  As a result, we don't need as

    many positions any longer.

         So this is a consolidation of a couple of positions, rolling it

    up into that higher level position.  So you're effectively taking an

    associate vice chancellor position and combining it with a director

    position to create just a single position that will oversee both the

    academic quality pieces and assessment.  I'm sorry, curriculum.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  So you're saying that these two

    administrative vice chancellors will no longer have positions,

    correct?  And you're going to create a new position?  Are one of

    those people going to move forward or is somebody else being

    considered?

         Then my next question is with enrollment being so low, why do we

    need that many people, you know, that many directors and

    administrators?  Because this particular area has a lot.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Well, so to your question, that's why we are

    doing this, to reduce the number.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  (Indiscernible) right?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Two to one, from two positions down to one.

    So that's part of the net effect of this.

         In terms of recruitment, we're going to do an internal interim

    placement, and then we're going to go out and do a national search.

    So what I like to do in most instances when someone receives their





    first administrator position that they go through a national

    recruitment for that.

         There is some rare exceptions to that.  But all administrative

    level positions since I have been here with rare exceptions have gone

    through a national search.  We want to make sure we're attracting the

    best capable quality candidates we can get to oversee key parts of

    the college.

         I will say this.  We have about 40-ish administrator positions.

    For the size of the college we are, that's a little low.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  But, sorry, considering the amount of

    -- considering the amount of enrollment that we have...

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Garcia --

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay, sorry.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  So I recognize that.  That's why we have

    kept the positions at a fairly low number.  But what that does do, it

    places a disproportionate amount of work on individuals in the

    administration.

         Remember, in the administration, it has a large set of

    responsibilities for compliance, which is in many cases very

    significant.  That is very true in this particular area.  So to have

    only one person shouldering that load is asking a lot.

         And then they have planning responsibilities.  They have

    supervision and management responsibilities.  They have planning

    responsibilities.  So you just start to add all of those things up,

    and it is asking a lot of a single individual.





         But we recognize that enrollment is low, and as a result of that,

    we have had to make decisions to adjust the size of the college

    consistent with that through all ranks of the college.

         So everyone is carrying a heavier burden.  So I recognize that,

    too.  But also keep in mind, we have stabilized our financial

    position, thanks to the passage of 481, as well as with the marijuana

    proposition passing.  The college is going to see for the first time

    new revenue that it hasn't seen in a long, long time.  Then we also

    have bridge resources thanks to the COVID stimulus packages.

         So we are in a great position to start making some of these

    transitions and positioning for future growth of the institution.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Go ahead, Ms. Garcia.  I'm sorry to cut

    you off earlier.  We had a conversation going.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  No, no, I'm fine.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Could you tell us a little bit more about

    what your concern is?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Well, I just don't see the point.  With the

    amount of directors and administrators we have at the present time,

    even though we're getting rid of two, I think that this particular

    area of the college needs to be re-evaluated as to what people are

    really doing.

         You know, what contributions are they giving?  I mean, are they

    being utilized effectively?  Do they have the right skill sets?  I

    don't know that.  But I just don't think that making another position

    at a higher level takes care of it.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Chancellor Lambert?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  So, Ms. Garcia, when the college moved from

    probation to notice, one of the big issues that the HLC pointed out

    to the college was that it was not effectively assessing student

    learning.  So we had to put greater attention to meet our HLC

    obligation.

         So I think this is a well-worth-it investment to keep the college

    out of hot water for something that it hadn't been able to do.  If

    you'd like to go see the past reports, we'd gladly supply to you,

    decades, the HLC kept telling the college, you don't have an

    integrated systematic approach to assessing student learning

    outcomes.

         We now have that system in place, but we don't need multiple

    people.  We just need one capable person, and now we're at that point

    that we can do that.  And so I think it would be ill-advised not to

    have somebody overseeing this work.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  I'm going to make one more comment.

    Sorry.  I just hope this person is not going to be an out-of-state

    person that's going to run this, that's going to be on this program,

    that lives outside.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  If I might, just to the point Ms. Garcia

    made or was raising earlier, so there was a retirement in this area

    of one of the people in the area, and the priorities and needs have

    shifted because we moved from not having a sufficiently robust

    student assessment system to implementing a new much-more-robust





    system.  We have also made significant changes in curriculum.

         So the allocation of responsibilities among different positions,

    all that's been looked at, and this is an effort to try and realign

    the skill sets and the resources.  One piece of that was creating

    this new position out of two other positions.  This aspect came to

    the board because its creating a new position requires board

    approval.  But some of the steps you're talking about were part of --

    there is a bigger reorganization going on, not just this piece.

         And then to the last issue you raised, my understanding the plan

    is that this opportunity is going to be open to Pima College staff

    first to see if there is someone in the college currently who could

    step into the role so that we do keep it within the college community

    and local.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Chancellor Lambert?

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Just to clarify, Jeff, that's on an interim

    basis.  Then we would open it up for a national search.

         Now remember, I think in a healthy organization, you're always

    balancing between promoting people from within the college and

    bringing new people in from the outside.  You have to balance and

    weigh that so you're always bringing in new ideas, but at the same

    time allowing opportunities for existing people to grow.

         So we're always balancing those, that tension.  If we're really

    committed to diversity, equity, and inclusion, we have to be willing

    to open our positions up for recruitment.

         So that's another important part of the equation of why I just





    don't want to promote someone who is not already an existing

    administrator into an administrator position without going through a

    national search.  So it allows for the balance and our commitment to

    DEI as part of our larger focus of our mission.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  I understand that, Chancellor Lambert.  I

    guess what I'm going to ask, though, is that whoever you do -- I

    mean, I'm going to go ahead and vote for this, but what I'm going to

    ask is that you not hire somebody who is going to be working from

    out-of-state.  I already know that that already exists.  Not for this

    position, but for your new HR person.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  Well, let me clarify something on that

    piece.  So I think there is a little misunderstanding on that.  We

    hired our new HR person.  She will be moving to Tucson.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  She's in transition right now.  So I'm sorry

    that you have been misled about that.  We expect our administrators,

    and just about all of our employees to live here in Pima County.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay, good.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  And because of COVID, it has created just

    this, you know, mismatched, misbalance around this.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.

         >> DR. LEE LAMBERT:  I'm sorry you have been misled on the HR

    position.  I'm very sensitive to that, because these positions are

    funded by our local taxpayers.  So these individuals should live in

    commutable distance to the college.





         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Okay.  Thank you.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes, just to kind of add and summarize,

    I think that it would be good for the board to have a study session

    or some other offline discussion of the administrative positions if

    there are 40-some and look at their job descriptions and have that,

    be part of at least a little part of the reorg process so that we

    have an understanding just to address your concerns, Ms. Garcia, and

    all of us, to exactly where are we going with enrollment coming down

    and, you know, possible problems with tuition.

         I think it's just healthy to look at -- so that the board

    understands fully what exactly, what precisely are the administrators

    doing, because they are very, they are higher-level positions than

    staff.  It's where a lot of our budget goes towards, and I think it's

    incumbent upon us as board members to fully understand that.

         So I think it would be a good study session.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Thank you, Catherine.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Okay.  Mr. Gonzales?  Then we will have a

    vote.  Go ahead.

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  I just want to make a comment in reference

    to this position is that, one, whoever is going to be hired should

    be, as mentioned a while ago, the best capable and more qualified,

    which is good, but also somebody that knows the community and

    reflective of the community of the students, as well, too.  Thank

    you.





         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Thank you very much.

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  That's good.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Is there any last comments?  Okay.

         Hearing none, Mr. Silvyn, if you could read the roll call vote,

    please.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Ripley?

         >> MS. CATHERINE RIPLEY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Clinco?

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Ms. Garcia?

         >> MS. MARIA GARCIA:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Dr. Hay?

         >> DR. MEREDITH HAY:  Yes.

         >> MR. JEFF SILVYN:  Mr. Gonzales?

         >> MR. LUIS GONZALES:  Yes.

         >> MR. DEMION CLINCO:  The motion passes unanimously.  Next is

    request for future agenda items.

         Okay.  Hearing none, our meeting is adjourned.  I will just say

    we are going to try to create some sort of hybrid and look at options

    for coming back partially in person either at our next meeting or the

    meeting thereafter.  Okay.  Thank you very much.

         (Adjournment.)





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